[MD] Proud to be a Brit / Pommie

[Ian Glendinning]

So you agree Platt.

Nazism - bad (latest news, hold the front page)
Capitalism (any ism with a Kapital letter) - bad
(Ideology bad)
Pragmatism - OK in itself (if not abused by ideology)

Pragmatism plus a hierarchy of patterns of value, with a dynamic
(Darwinian) mechanism for "participation" in improving those patterns
- better.
Radical pragmatism (or wherever DMB's line if enquiry takes us) -
maybe even better ?

We're on a roll.
Ian

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Platt Holden <plattholden at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agreed with gav that focussing on the numbers is a mugs game and
>> misses the real sustainability issues, but I have to take comfort in
>> the fact that the antidote to capitalism (ideology) is pragmatism (ie
>> anything but ideology).
>
> "But the Metaphysics of Quality states that practicality is a social
> pattern of good. It is immoral for truth to be subordinated to social
> values since that is a lower form of evolution devouring a higher one.
> The idea that satisfaction alone is the test of anything is very dangerous,
> according to the Metaphysics of Quality. There are different kinds of
> satisfaction and some of them are moral nightmares. The Holocaust produced
> a satisfaction among Nazis. That was quality for them. They considered it
> to be practical. But it was a quality dictated by low level static social
> and biological patterns whose overall purpose was to retard the evolution
> of truth and. Dynamic Quality. James would probably have been horrified to
> find that Nazis could use his pragmatism just as freely as anyone else, but
> Phaedrus didn't see anything that would prevent it. But he thought that the
> Metaphysics of Quality's classification of static patterns of good prevents
> this kind of debasement." (Lila, 29)
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