[MD] Metaphysical issues: DQ

[Krimel]

Krimel asked dmb:
Am I just imagining common ground here?

dmb says:
Yes. You are just imagining things and you have a very wild imagination at
that. Sorry, but when I say that you're clueless about the MOQ I am quite
sincere. Seems to me that you're pretty smart and would be perfectly capable
of understanding this stuff with a little effort, but so far I've seen no
evidence that you understand anything about it.

[Krimel]
I love you too, Dave. But from my perspective you have never shown
sufficient understanding of what I am saying to qualify yourself to judge
it. Typically you wind of ranting against some imagined extreme position
that has little to do with what I have said. 

I think you are a smart guy yourself and hope that if I ever get to Denver
we could have a beer. Maybe I could borrow a spare bedroom. I'll buy you
lunch if you ever get to Florida. But I think the MoQ as you envision it is
watered down restrictive dogma. I think you use it as a tool to avoid
engaging the dynamic reality that spinning out of control at an accelerating
rate all around us. I think you throw up metaphysical smoke screens because
serious enquiry into the very topics at issue threaten your position.
Witness your rejection of brain studies sponsored by the Dalai Lama. 

You talk about mysticism as through it was some big deal but it seems like
JUST another kind of experience to me. It seems to have about the same
metaphysical significance as diet and exercise from what your say about it.
But you tend to shy away actually saying anything.

With regard the perspectivialism, I am not familiar with it but you seem to
be saying that we have this ability to adopt different points of view. But
then you seem to want to claim that we should privilege a particular point
of view, that of immediate felt experience. Along the lines that Arlo
brought up with Tomasello's view, I would say that the ability to take
multiple points of view is our "super power". We can see things from a god's
eye view or from our own immediate point of view or from our neighbor's
point of view or from the point of view of a quantum particle. We are our
own band of blind men touching elephants.

You criticize science for claiming some imagined privileged point of view
but them insist on one of your own. I think the point of the MoQ is to
highlight and encourage the use of our super power so Zoom in, Zoom out,
Refocus.