[MD] growth and sustainability

[Krimel]

> > [Krimel]
> > So let's review: You quote Seeger to support your right wing fantasies.
> > But when the context is made clear you entered into a debate with his 
> > song?
> > Thanks for another lesson in the obscure workings of the conservative
> > mind. 
> 
> [Platt]
> Only your mind is obscure. I quoted one line to illustrate that yuppies 
> have never learned the sacrifices required to defend liberty. Obviously,
> the socialist, pacifist Seeger never learned it either. 
> 
> [Krimel]
> OK, just to further the history lesson. Seeger or at least his music is
> better associated with hippies. Yuppies were the corporals and sergeants
> of
> the Raygun Revolution. They are best portrayed in the film American
> Psycho.
> Seeger on the other hand was featured in "Alice's Restaurant". He was a
> friend of Woody Guthrie. His songs, were made popular by such flower
> children as the Mama's and the Papa's, The Byrds, Joaz Baez and the
> Kingston
> Trio. His songs, like, "If I Had a Hammer" and his reworking of
> Ecclesiastes
> into the celestial, "Turn, Turn, Turn," were at once simple, direct and
> profoundly cerebral.
> 
> A nice sample of yuppie music can be found on the American Psycho
> soundtrack, Phil Collins, Robert Palmer, Huey Lewis, and Katrina and the
> Waves. Like the Raygun era that spawned it, it is all very energetic,
> mindless and self centered. 

Thanks for the history lesson. I should have guessed Seeger was a hippie. 
Pirsig describes those losers perfectly. Of course, when the tyranny of 
Russian communism collapsed thanks to Reagan-Thatcher it was  probably a 
sad day for Seeger and his buddies.  

[Krimel]
This just in... Russia fell largely as a result of pissing away its
resources in a protracted and futile war in Afghanistan. 

When indeed will they ever learn?