[MD] patterns revisited

[David M]

Marsha

Or what you are is the experience of a tree, existence is what takes place
in experience, our lives are experiences, we are a locus of the value of 
change,
of what is being experienced, if there was no content to experience there 
would
be no individual, no situated life. Being close enough to a tree to see 
and/or
touch it changes the processes we are undergoing and unfolding so that
what we become is changed by the interaction with the tree. What we are
is not just the pattern that exists prior to experiencing the tree but the 
changes
brough about through interacting with the tree, we are the change, the 
change
that incorporates this tree into the process of change that we are with its
contingencies, creativities, possibilities and necessities, repeats and 
patterns.

DM


PM
Subject: Re: [MD] patterns revisited


> At 02:47 PM 10/20/2008, you wrote:
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>>     Marsha:
>>It is human nature to dissect, name and define, but not Nature.
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>>    woods:
>>I'm not dissecting and naming.  I can, but that's where I'm trying to
>>come at this.  I could.  And it can easily be taken that I am coming
>>at this in that manner, but I'm not.  Pirsig mentioned a mental way to
>>understand.  I'm trying to understand in a value way.  Again, mental
>>is a good way.  It has value.  But value is not restricted to mental only.
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> How about the value is experience.  When I experience a tree, the tree 
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