[MD] patterns revisited

[MarshaV]

At 03:32 PM 10/23/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Marsha
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>When you eat an apple I'd suggest that a pre-linguistic pattern
>repeats, i.e. the taste, of course we trace the patterns that are
>ofhuman interest to us like the horizon but nature is not just a
>flux thereis order and change, SQ and DQ, with new SQ
>continuing to emerge via both nature and culture, all patterns
>to the MOQ.

DM,

I don't understand your response to my post.  Is an organic pattern 
named tree, actual phenomena or is it conceptual pattern referring to 
phenomena?  Yes, DQ is the flow though which all patterns change.

Marsha







>>SA,
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>>A bit of a new beginning.
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>>When I say the nature of all patterns is conceptual, I'm saying 
>>that patterns are mental in nature.  They are held in minds.  What 
>>an individual pattern refers to can be categorized as inorganic, 
>>biological, social and intellectual.   This is important.  The 
>>pattern is the static part of the experience, it is not the experience.
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>>The referent of inorganic and biological level patterns are 
>>external, natural phenomenon.  Kind of like things.  But there 
>>really are no 'things'.  There are only ever-changing, 
>>interrelated, overlapping systems and processes.  Nature does not 
>>name, define or isolate.
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>>The referent of social and intellectual level patterns are 
>>ideas.  I understand Intellectual-static-patterns-of-value to be 
>>"defined very loosely as the level of independently manipulable 
>>signs. Grammar, logic and mathematics can be described as the rules 
>>of this sign manipulation." (letter to Paul Turn 2003)
>>
>>Let's not get into the problems of intellectual spov versus 
>>thinking. Thinking is not an indication of a 
>>intellectual-static-pattern-of-value. Thinking to me is a tool like 
>>seeing, hearing, touching, tasting and smelling.
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>>What do you think?
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>>Marsha
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>>The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a 
>>reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end.
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The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a 
reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end.
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