[MD] Emotions' place?

[Christoffer Ivarsson]

>> Skutvik said:
>> Again, perhaps this is the said next turn of the Q-screw? I mean as
>> in LILA where Pirsig speaks about intellect and biology (the levels)
>> joining forces to quell social value. If we extend this into a
>> reality where Quality is seen as quasi-level it's "enemy below" is
>> intellect and it will "join forces" with social value to quell
>> intellect. This is exactly what  caused "LILA" so much bad press at
>> its publication, Pirsig looked like a reactionary.
>
>> dmb says:
>> Bo, I'm am shocked and horrified by these assertions. I'm disgusted,
>> actually. You've turned the MOQ into a doctrine that supports
>> anti-intellectual reactionary politics, if not outright fascism.
>> This is both incorrect and immoral. Seriously. I used to think you
>> were just wrong, a mixed up essentialist, but now I think your ideas
>> are actually kind of bigoted and dangerous.

[Bodvar]
> Good, at least I managed to shake up one single person from the
> slumber that this discussion has been in and show the implications of
> a MOQ not properly understood. Namely that of being a better
> intellectual pattern that will replace the S/O patterns (science and
> knowledge) that have corrupted it. Because these patterns ARE
> intellect it's back to a social reality if weakened, and this is truly
> "outright fascism" (at least for a culture that has been at the 
> intellectual
> level). The S/O distinction must be kept as intellect's value - the
> highest and best static such - only checked by the DQ/SQ context it's
> part of.
>
> As I sketched regarding the Orient of an intellectual level  that didn't
> develop properly before overwhelmed by a "dynamic" something
> beyond that "join forces" with  social value. The MOQ is no academical
> dee-da-dum, but a very dangerous idea if not treated with care. I show
> these dangers and am subject to the "kill the messenger" instinct.
>
> Bo

I'm with Bo. And I would also like to add that that's why I get so angry at 
Platt and others using the MOQ as an "anti-intellectual reactionary 
politics" - because I feel that they do just that. By alla the Gods and 
Stuff Like That - I will not sit here and hear people go on about their 
anti-intelelctual agenda and use the "DQ card" to escape from reason. Gods 
how I hate it!