[MD] blackwater

[Ian Glendinning]

Woods,
I am focussing, just not on blackwater.
On the governance point, I'm just trying to find a starting point with
you. You sound like you have no specific point where you want to
change / improve the existing system(s) ... when we find one, I'll
talk about it with you .... (I'm not hurrying you, nor you me.)

I have my own points but I can start my own thread(s) for those.
Ian

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Woods Woods <woodswoods8 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Woods, previously you said ...
>> The U.S. has a governing system already.  You see?
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> Ian:
> Tell me something I didn't know.
> I thought you wanted intelligent debate ?
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> woods:
> About what?  What do you want to "debate"?  Ian, you
> don't bring ideas to the table, sorry, but I keep asking
> in each post what you want to talk about.  You are trying
> to say something, but what?  You brought up goverance,
> and say paraphasing, "if we want to change something, what
> is it we want to change", and so I told you what needs
> changed from my perspective.  And now you come back
> with this.  Over and over again, you don't bring any
> ideas to this discussion.  You just say, "discuss".  Well,
> we are discussing.  Unless you can discuss back, it's not
> a discussion Ian.  But you'll probably say "Tell me something I
> didn't know."  Ian, I'm trying, are you?  So I ask for like
> the upteenth time.  What is so special about this
> governance that you bring up?  I brought up my angle
> on this topic, but it's not what your looking for but you have
> yet to provide anything.  I mean do you have any idea what
> your talking about or else do I have to come up with all the ideas?
>     Why do you find current governance lacking?  Why do you find
> it something worthwhile to discuss?  What's missing?  What do you
> want to do?  Do you want me or somebody else to define governance
> for you?  Or are you going to bring definition to a topic you want to talk
> about?  I'm not being rhetorical.  I'm asking you serious, sincere questions
> in an effort to stimulate some intellectual patterns out of you.  But
> you keep pointing out all the wrongs, instead of pointing out the
> rights that you say are here in this world but have yet to bring them
> to light in order to discuss.  What are you hiding?
>
>    I thought YOU wanted intelligent debate?
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> When you said it will take patience, I didn't know I'd be waiting for you.  If
> you think this is going nowhere, I'd object, so please refrain from
> getting off topic like you did again in this post, like your last two posts.  Focus,
> Ian, focus.
> woods
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