[MD] Inorganic, organic, social, intellectual,.... virtual

[MarshaV]

At 03:47 AM 9/5/2008, Peter wrote:
>Marsha, why not say what you think about Second Life?

I don't see that it is necessary that I have an opinion about Second 
Life.  It doesn't interest me.  I'd rather investigate the nature of 
mind (self and phenomena(patterns)).  I think an understanding of 
mind will produce better results when it comes to aspiring to higher 
value experiences than a computer game.



>You know we could still live like animals; no clothes, houses, computers,...
>no possessions (Lennon's dream). All the tools and artifacts that humanity
>has produced are dispensable and we would still survive without them;
>Quality would still reign supreme but we would have turned away ... and
>there would be no MoQ, not even any Greek Gods.

A return to Gaia!



>Likewise, Second Life is not necessary but its a phenomenon and it, or
>something like it, is here to stay; governments could ban it but ultimately
>they would not succeed. In SL a new world order is arising, that may one day
>become the brain of Gaia.

I am a woman.  I haven't the slightest idea what you're getting at, 
and I have a fear that you don't either.  But so flows the river.



>What has 'blown me away' the most about SL so far is the sophistication of
>the tools for building 'things' there; it is an explosion of creativity and
>it is quite possible that some things designed in SL may eventually be
>built, in buckminsterfullerene, in the real world. Likewise Social
>organisations may develop there which may be taken up in the real world too;
>there are so many implications to consider.

Sounds like the Matrix to me.  Have fun!


Marsha




>-Peter
>
>2008/9/4 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>
> > At 11:07 AM 9/4/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >> Marsha, you could be a judge in Second Life!
> >>
> >> But please don't judge it unless you have tried it - that would be
> >> prejudice.
> >>
> >> -Peter
> >>
> >
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > This post you wrote to yourself, not me.
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  2008/9/4 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> >>
> >> > At 04:33 AM 9/4/2008, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> A short while ago Krimel posted about an experiment designed to induce
> >> an
> >> >> out of body experience where subjects get to see themselves from
> >> outside
> >> >> (behind) themselves; coincidentally, I read some articles recently
> >> about
> >> >> Second Life ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Life) and decided to
> >> >> give
> >> >> it a try.
> >> >>
> >> >> Second Life takes you into a virtual world where you can make things,
> >> >> teleport and network socially - you do this through your avatar
> >> >> (incarnation) and it induces a similar experience described in Krimel's
> >> >> experiment. I read that this amasing software was partly developed by a
> >> >> team
> >> >> of Asperger's sufferers and has gained favour as an empowering tool for
> >> >> people with disabilities.
> >> >>
> >> >> In Second Life you have a body, avatar, but the biological restraints
> >> of
> >> >> eating, sleeping, relieving etc are removed. This world came out of
> >> >> Intellect but to exist there, one quickly learns, depends on conducive
> >> >> social interaction. It mirrors the 'real' world and then some. I asked
> >> >> others there where they are from in real life and how old they are etc;
> >> >> one
> >> >> long term user told me that who you are in real life does not matter
> >> and
> >> >> we
> >> >> began a discussion about who is my self.
> >> >>
> >> >> I had heard of such virtual worlds before and had a dim view; I told
> >> some
> >> >> family and friends about it and could sense their uncertainty when they
> >> >> advised caution; since using the program over the last 10 or so days I
> >> >> have
> >> >> found myself walking down the real streets of my local town with a
> >> smile
> >> >> on
> >> >> my face. Sad or what?
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyone else here tried it?
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >>
> >> >> -Peter
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > "``Dad?''
> >> > ``What?'' A small bird rises from a tree in front of us.
> >> > ``What should I be when I grow up?''
> >> > The bird disappears over a far ridge. I don't know what to say.
> >> ``Honest,''
> >> > I finally say. "
> >> >
> >> >  (ZMM, Chapter 22)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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