[MD] Virtually meaningful?

[MarshaV]

At 03:54 PM 9/10/2008, you wrote:
>he "toleration" is nothing to do with me Marsha, the online identities
>are tolerated / trusted by all who interact with them. The only person
>with any actual power to decide if an identity is "valid" is Horse.
>
>But I see Arlo has picked-up the "identity" question ... I'd agree
>with the general point it's not about a name, or even a zip code or
>phone number - they can all change - it's about the constancy and
>consistency (or not) of many overlapping patterns ... mainly patterns
>of text and "behaviour" in e-mails, since we are an e-mail forum, with
>little else to go on.
>
>Are you naive to expect trust and honesty betweeen posters ? No you
>are not, but trust has to be earned (whatever anyone's name).
>
>Ian

Ian,

Twenty years ago I might agree with you that trust has to be 
earned.  Today I'm willing to believe people will be honest.  I 
understand that people make mistakes and every set of patterns has a 
different experience and therefore may perceive a different 
truth.  But I want to believe people are being as honest as 
possible.  It provides a better living experience.   Of course I have 
been mistaken, but so what.  I acknowledge that death may be an 
instant away, and I don't want evaluating trustworthiness to dominate 
my experience.  Besides, intuition really directs my interactions 
with the world.  So I don't really think much about it.  Well, except 
for now in this forum.  But I'll get over it.

Marsha













>On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:36 PM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
> > At 06:09 PM 9/8/2008, you wrote:
> >>
> >> "The Old Plant" was of course a spoof from the outset Marsha ... it
> >> just landed in the forum at a moment when others would rather not hear
> >> the idea of a hoax you may recall. My timing never was that good.
> >
> > Hi Ian,
> >
> > At the time, there was only shock!   It had to do with honesty and trust,
> > and it took me a while to readjust.
> >
> >
> >> I'm confused about doubts about multiple "false" identities - there
> >> clearly are / have been a few. They are tolerated so long intent is
> >> not low-quality.
> >
> > They are tolerated???  Who is the "they"?  Where is the definition of
> > "tolerated"?  And who decides to the placement on the value on a 
> high-to-low
> > scale?   Have you been making these assessments?  Please share your
> > involvement on the Board.
> >
> > If individuals want to construct new identities, there are obviously
> > websites where this is the purpose.  Go!  Have a good time.  It 
> seems honest
> > because everybody knows that it's happening.  But, pardon me, I 
> thought that
> > in a MOQ forum, honesty, at least, would be valued.
> >
> > Seems to me there's a difference between anonymity and bullshit.  I don't
> > buy Arlo's rationalizations for this forum.  Am I naive to expect trust and
> > honesty between posters?   Are Krimel, SA, Margaret, Chris and 
> Ron just Arlo
> > amusing himself,?  And that's not a problem?
> >
> > Gee, I'm really stupid, aren't I?
> >
> > Hahahahaha.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> >> Ian
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:48 PM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
> >> > At 04:25 PM 9/8/2008, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I think the general conclusion I have come to is
> >> >> that this forum IS virtually meaningless...
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks for opening my eyes to that one..
> >> >>
> >> >> this, the mad hatters tea party..
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ron,
> >> >
> >> > Relax.  A couple of years ago Ian came out with a post claiming he had
> >> > uncovered the fact that Platt was RMP.   I went into deep shock.  My
> >> > trust
> >> > ratio went to zero for a while.
> >> >
> >> > If nobody in this forum is being deceptive and dishonest within the
> >> > forum,
> >> > it might just be an interesting discussion.  The topic of self
> >> > (identities)
> >> > is fascinating when patterns are interrelated and constantly changing.
> >> >
> >> > What do you think?   Might this be a chance to empty some of that tea?
> >> >
> >> > Marsha
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > .
> >> > .
> >> >
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> >> > stars.........
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