[MD] Virtually meaningful?

[MarshaV]

Ian,

This much I know, it is not you that annoys me.  It is something in 
your contribution that makes me uncomfortable, and it is most 
certainly my problem.  To uncover this is most helpful.

Marsha





At 10:03 AM 9/14/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Marsha, sorry to occasionally annoy you, but your response is appreciated.
>
>Drugs ... artificial means of achieving a temporarily altered state of
>mind, and a different perspective on life ... well yes, but need to be
>careful about taking that kind of risk in the middle of real life and
>real responsibilities ... or becoming adicted to the altered state
>"instead of" real life. One of the reasons I've been an advocate of
>Sue Blackmore's enlightened take on psychedelics - "special"
>occasions, as you suggest.
>
>Anything artificial or virtual may seem like cheating or laziness,
>some might say "meditation" looked like a lazy option too, but I say a
>little variety is good. I wouldn't recommend casual or lazy
>drug-taking any more than I'd recommend casual or lazy meditation, or
>casual or lazy anything ...
>
>Ian
>
>On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:50 AM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
> > At 02:28 PM 9/13/2008, you wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi David,
> >>
> >> You said.
> >> > One interesting thing about a virtual world might be how it makes
> >> > us familiar with new possibilities that we are told cannot
> >> > be realised in the square world, opening up more DQ.
> >>
> >> Agreed ... this was my point that virtual worlds have learning value,
> >> because the new "riskier" possibilities have less tangible downside in
> >> the virtual worlds .... hence more opportunity for exploration / DQ.
> >>
> >> Ian
> >
> > David, Ian,
> >
> > Why not just do drugs?  It seems to me that risk-taking means _doing/being_
> > in the face of risks, not by diminishing risk.  I decided that smoking
> > marijuana was cheating.  I stopped.  Or maybe should only be used on very
> > special ritual occasions.  Drugs or virtual games, both seem to 
> be a crutch.
> >  Becoming clear means becoming clear, not just an altered personality.
> >  Meditation seems to be the correct course of action, but, of course, I can
> > be as lazy as most.
> >
> > Marsha
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