[MD] Painting

[MarshaV]

At 03:05 PM 9/15/2008, you wrote:
>It would be a sad day if Arlo and Marsha couldn't understand each
>other, so I'm interested in this conversation without wishing to
>deflect it.
>
>I'll hope Arlo's "you body is irrelevant" remark was a little extreme
>for emphasis, in his context ;-)
>
>That said, I've had several conversations elsewhere that conclude with
>the idea that honesty & sincerity in expressing truth are biggies,
>such biggies that almost nothing else matters much, whilst that's in
>doubt on either side of a conversation. I have the scars to prove it.
>
>In my view, the debate (as always, as Arlo illustrates) is in ... what
>is this "reality" in whose truth we are being sincere and honest ?

Truth is relative.  And?????????


>As
>soon as we move away from things entirely literal and objective, as we
>must in this MoQish context, then we must rely on "patterns" of
>behaviour (and intent) built-up over time; behaviors that must include
>analogy, simulation, thought-experiments, mind-games, and other
>rhetorical tricks in order to be "creative".

I'm a bit suspicious of multiple identity tricks.  And Arlo's gender 
blah, blah, blah is not making his case any clearer.  And I do not 
give a mouse's butt if he is a man in a woman's body or a woman in a 
man's body.  His body is not relevant to me in any way.  I hope this 
is clear.   It also seems his discourse has move far from my original 
complaint and question.


>Everyone starts with a
>balance of trust, but it's the most valuable resource to work at
>maintaining. It's the "perceived intent" in the tricks that can be the
>trust-killer, not the "tricks" per se.

While not shattered, my trust has been put on alert.  Gender-issue 
thought experiments or rhetorical tricks are no explanation.  When 
residing in no-self, there is no Marsha, no Arlo, no gender issues, 
and nothing to talk about.  So be it.

Marsha




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>On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 1:41 PM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
> > At 02:14 PM 9/15/2008, you wrote:
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> >
> >> [Marsha]
> >> What do you want?
> >>
> >> [Arlo]
> >> Right now? A root beer float.
> >>
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> > [Marsha]
> > That does sound good to me too.
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