[MD] sustaining?

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Thu Sep 18 08:03:55 PDT 2008


At 10:41 AM 9/18/2008, you wrote:
>Marsha,
>I almost respnded too , but was going to pick-up on the "kill"
>statements rather than the "follow" question ...
>
>Both are problematic taken in isolation (as mel says).
>
>My point was that the kill (completely kill) is about the (static)
>patterns not about the intellect.

Hi Ian,

I completely agree.  But can you think too much?


>And the "completely" is only in the context of the instruction to
>follow dynamic quality ... like Pirsig is not denying the (positive)
>static latching value of static patterns only their (negative)
>constraining value.

I think following dynamic quality requires some intelligent 
consideration, of course!   But not too much.  It's as I wrote to Ham 
"Why not leave it a mystery???  Why not let it unfold before you in 
all its many aspects?"  Wow!  Now I'm quoting myself!!!  I am surely an idiot!

Marsha





>IMHO natch.
>Ian
>
>On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:33 AM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > mel,
> >
> > Please explain what it means to you.  I've posted this particular passage
> > mucho times, and I would like to know what you think about it.  At the
> > moment, sustaining seems depressing.   What do you think?
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 09:45 AM 9/18/2008, you wrote:
> >>
> >> The passage could also be made
> >> more approachable by punctuation changes.
> >>
> >> The style of a writer can introduce unintended
> >> implications to readers used to a different style.
> >>
> >> ...of course excerpting can alter the flow of an
> >> expression of meaning and Pirsig is dense with it.
> >>
> >> Hence, the need to re-read.
> >>
> >> thanks--mel
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "MarshaV" <marshalz at charter.net>
> >> To: "MD Forum" <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:46 AM
> >> Subject: [MD] sustaining?
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > While sustaining biological and social patterns
> >> > Kill all intellectual patterns.
> >> > Kill them completely
> >> > And then follow Dynamic Quality
> >> > And morality will be served.
> >> >        (LILA, Chapter 32)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sustaining is a tricky word?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > .
> >> > .
> >> >
> >> > Shoot for the moon.  Even if you miss, you'll land among the
> >> stars.........
> >> > .
> >> > .
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