[MD] apocalypse...now?

gav gav_gc at yahoo.com.au
Sat Sep 27 05:30:59 PDT 2008 

that's what i really love about this forum (sarcastic undertones): everyone already knows it all. anytime you want to turn on your brain, i'm here digger. and that goes for the rest of you dinosaurs (u know who you are)
.....sorry about the tone but nick's post reminded me that words *can* help, but only when they are real and true. 

so this is my truth: you prideful men, you baffle and nauseate me. how can u be so stupid? ....and now it is i that transgress. i know u are not stupid; i have known most of you for years.

...i think it is down to an existential problem: how can u see and feel the implicit unified intelligence of life when u are running the egoic program all the time. it is impossible.

gav's prescription: psychedelics, or an e for the scaredy cats. why do you think they are illegal?...u see through the egoic illusion. no ego NO FEAR...no control. i can't explain it to you...well i can and have but you haven't got the experiential analogues to allow you to comprehend it.

okay most of you think i am crazy for suggesting the above....well sweet...that's a reaction by the way: it ain't you, it's the giant. oooooooh spooky.

or....if you are too old (aldous huxley took lsd on his deathbed by the way), or think u are, then read/listen to eckhart tolle and let the words be rather than reacting against them.

anyway i know you will probably ignore me but u cannae get round it me old dear fruitcakes: u exist to evolve, now or later: your choice my friends.

gav's psychedelic menu:
shrooms: great, use with people u know what they are doing....obviously.
excellent in nature, promotes sense acuity, heightened co-ordination, empathy, intuition and wisdom/humour (inextricably linked). 

lsd: varies in potency, again check with people u trust. a little more edgy perhaps than shrooms but very similar and often freaking hilarious. albert hoffman (swiss chemist who synthesised lsd first), on his 100th birthday, implored the world to rediscover the healing potential of lsd: now more than ever. he said that it connects people back to the earth...to nature (the mother is always there kids).

eeeeeees/ mdma: usually no bad effects: very hard to have a bad trip on an eee. promotes empathy and love. mdma is purer and better...usually. slight artificiality to the experience because there is no natural analogue of mdma, unlike lsd (ergot fungus)
...u can tell - the diff is obvious when the comedown kicks in.

dmt: the granddaddy: the chemical produced by the pineal gland at birth and death. when u have the trigger amount you are gone: literally. your separate self is annihilated and the geometric/liquid majesty of reality is all....wow. only did it the once (properly) and when i came back to conditioned reality i laughed so deeply...i could feel the laugh coming from the earth through my bare feet and into my diaphragm. indescribable experience really: excellent grounder.

bytheway...had one go at shrooms and one go at acid this year (both quite disappointing): no eees or dmt. i feel no need for more ingestion at the mo...but i will follow the signs.

all the best.
gav










--- On Sat, 27/9/08, Peter Corteen <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: Peter Corteen <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Received: Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 8:54 PM
> No Gav, the sun and moon.
> 
> 2008/9/26 gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> 
> >
> > life is competition eh peter?
> > well who does gaia compete with? mars?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 27/9/08, Peter Corteen
> <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Peter Corteen
> <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > Received: Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 1:10 AM
> > > life is competition - you can't escape that
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2008/9/26 gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > >
> > > > i don't think the world and capitalism
> can both
> > > survive...one has to go.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 26/9/08, Peter Corteen
> > > <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Peter Corteen
> > > <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> > > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > > Received: Friday, 26 September, 2008,
> 5:03 PM
> > > > > Call me cynical but I think the world
> much as it
> > > is now will
> > > > > survive this
> > > > > collapse; capitalism will continue.
> Like you, I
> > > think
> > > > > things will be better
> > > > > after the crisis subsides. The Wall
> Street
> > > agreement will
> > > > > go through, the
> > > > > stronger after it's difficult
> conception.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's going to be a long recovery
> but I think
> > > the
> > > > > markets have hit the bottom
> > > > > now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hallelujah, we're all going to the
> Lord!
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > > 2008/9/25 gav
> <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > > > >
> > > > > > i am dazzled by the glorious
> collapse of the
> > > world!!!!
> > > > > (henry miller)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > yes it is true: i am absorbed,
> intrigued,
> > > awestruck by
> > > > > the collapse...the
> > > > > > dumb greedy beast is terminal and
> ain't
> > > it grand!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > we are on the threshold of
> something
> > > entirely new
> > > > > (....or another world war
> > > > > > i suppose).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > no more isms, no more politicians,
> no more
> > > banker
> > > > > wankers, no more ceo
> > > > > > tossers, no more pointless
> academia: we
> > > gonna have to
> > > > > work boy!!!! the
> > > > > > cemeteries are gonna bloom: the
> fruit of the
> > > dead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > remember, 'apocalypse'
> means to
> > > pierce the
> > > > > veil; it is not the end -
> > > > > > although it may well be the end of
> time (a
> > > mayan
> > > > > excursis for another time).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > we can see through the projections
> now; we
> > > can
> > > > > recognise the programming:
> > > > > > how we have been drilled to feel
> fear,
> > > shame,
> > > > > guilt...and we can let them
> > > > > > go. they belong to another epoch,
> a distant
> > > > > antediluvian time that will fade
> > > > > > rapidly from the memory as the new
> > > generations live
> > > > > fully and completely
> > > > > > with the earth and with each
> other.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > we are all different; we are all
> equal; we
> > > are all
> > > > > one: gaia.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > rock on
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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