[MD] apocalypse...now?

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Sat Sep 27 05:36:03 PDT 2008 


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At 08:30 AM 9/27/2008, you wrote:
>that's what i really love about this forum (sarcastic undertones): 
>everyone already knows it all. anytime you want to turn on your 
>brain, i'm here digger. and that goes for the rest of you dinosaurs 
>(u know who you are)
>.....sorry about the tone but nick's post reminded me that words 
>*can* help, but only when they are real and true.
>
>so this is my truth: you prideful men, you baffle and nauseate me. 
>how can u be so stupid? ....and now it is i that transgress. i know 
>u are not stupid; i have known most of you for years.
>
>...i think it is down to an existential problem: how can u see and 
>feel the implicit unified intelligence of life when u are running 
>the egoic program all the time. it is impossible.
>
>gav's prescription: psychedelics, or an e for the scaredy cats. why 
>do you think they are illegal?...u see through the egoic illusion. 
>no ego NO FEAR...no control. i can't explain it to you...well i can 
>and have but you haven't got the experiential analogues to allow you 
>to comprehend it.
>
>okay most of you think i am crazy for suggesting the above....well 
>sweet...that's a reaction by the way: it ain't you, it's the giant. 
>oooooooh spooky.
>
>or....if you are too old (aldous huxley took lsd on his deathbed by 
>the way), or think u are, then read/listen to eckhart tolle and let 
>the words be rather than reacting against them.
>
>anyway i know you will probably ignore me but u cannae get round it 
>me old dear fruitcakes: u exist to evolve, now or later: your choice 
>my friends.
>
>gav's psychedelic menu:
>shrooms: great, use with people u know what they are doing....obviously.
>excellent in nature, promotes sense acuity, heightened 
>co-ordination, empathy, intuition and wisdom/humour (inextricably linked).
>
>lsd: varies in potency, again check with people u trust. a little 
>more edgy perhaps than shrooms but very similar and often freaking 
>hilarious. albert hoffman (swiss chemist who synthesised lsd first), 
>on his 100th birthday, implored the world to rediscover the healing 
>potential of lsd: now more than ever. he said that it connects 
>people back to the earth...to nature (the mother is always there kids).
>
>eeeeeees/ mdma: usually no bad effects: very hard to have a bad trip 
>on an eee. promotes empathy and love. mdma is purer and 
>better...usually. slight artificiality to the experience because 
>there is no natural analogue of mdma, unlike lsd (ergot fungus)
>...u can tell - the diff is obvious when the comedown kicks in.
>
>dmt: the granddaddy: the chemical produced by the pineal gland at 
>birth and death. when u have the trigger amount you are gone: 
>literally. your separate self is annihilated and the 
>geometric/liquid majesty of reality is all....wow. only did it the 
>once (properly) and when i came back to conditioned reality i 
>laughed so deeply...i could feel the laugh coming from the earth 
>through my bare feet and into my diaphragm. indescribable experience 
>really: excellent grounder.
>
>bytheway...had one go at shrooms and one go at acid this year (both 
>quite disappointing): no eees or dmt. i feel no need for more 
>ingestion at the mo...but i will follow the signs.
>
>all the best.
>gav
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>--- On Sat, 27/9/08, Peter Corteen <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Peter Corteen <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Received: Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 8:54 PM
> > No Gav, the sun and moon.
> >
> > 2008/9/26 gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> >
> > >
> > > life is competition eh peter?
> > > well who does gaia compete with? mars?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 27/9/08, Peter Corteen
> > <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Peter Corteen
> > <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > Received: Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 1:10 AM
> > > > life is competition - you can't escape that
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2008/9/26 gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > > >
> > > > > i don't think the world and capitalism
> > can both
> > > > survive...one has to go.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Fri, 26/9/08, Peter Corteen
> > > > <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: Peter Corteen
> > > > <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> > > > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > > > Received: Friday, 26 September, 2008,
> > 5:03 PM
> > > > > > Call me cynical but I think the world
> > much as it
> > > > is now will
> > > > > > survive this
> > > > > > collapse; capitalism will continue.
> > Like you, I
> > > > think
> > > > > > things will be better
> > > > > > after the crisis subsides. The Wall
> > Street
> > > > agreement will
> > > > > > go through, the
> > > > > > stronger after it's difficult
> > conception.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's going to be a long recovery
> > but I think
> > > > the
> > > > > > markets have hit the bottom
> > > > > > now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hallelujah, we're all going to the
> > Lord!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2008/9/25 gav
> > <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > i am dazzled by the glorious
> > collapse of the
> > > > world!!!!
> > > > > > (henry miller)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > yes it is true: i am absorbed,
> > intrigued,
> > > > awestruck by
> > > > > > the collapse...the
> > > > > > > dumb greedy beast is terminal and
> > ain't
> > > > it grand!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > we are on the threshold of
> > something
> > > > entirely new
> > > > > > (....or another world war
> > > > > > > i suppose).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > no more isms, no more politicians,
> > no more
> > > > banker
> > > > > > wankers, no more ceo
> > > > > > > tossers, no more pointless
> > academia: we
> > > > gonna have to
> > > > > > work boy!!!! the
> > > > > > > cemeteries are gonna bloom: the
> > fruit of the
> > > > dead.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > remember, 'apocalypse'
> > means to
> > > > pierce the
> > > > > > veil; it is not the end -
> > > > > > > although it may well be the end of
> > time (a
> > > > mayan
> > > > > > excursis for another time).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > we can see through the projections
> > now; we
> > > > can
> > > > > > recognise the programming:
> > > > > > > how we have been drilled to feel
> > fear,
> > > > shame,
> > > > > > guilt...and we can let them
> > > > > > > go. they belong to another epoch,
> > a distant
> > > > > > antediluvian time that will fade
> > > > > > > rapidly from the memory as the new
> > > > generations live
> > > > > > fully and completely
> > > > > > > with the earth and with each
> > other.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > we are all different; we are all
> > equal; we
> > > > are all
> > > > > > one: gaia.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > rock on
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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