[MD] A modern allegory

[Christoffer Ivarsson]

Khaled, everyone

Excellent interview I thought.  The main thing that I don't understand why 
Platt and the other far-right people on this forum can see is the basically 
the first thing that they say in this interview.

The unchecked capitalist society of which the US stands as the utmost and 
most far driven example of is a society that, regardless of actual 
institutionalisation by any government or fixed social structure, is a 
society where the social level remains predominant. There can be no question 
in anyone's mind that the consumer-culture that drives both individuals and 
entire nations to take the most rash actions in order to sustain it, is a 
system that is totally, and fundamentally a product of what the MOQ 
identifies as social level.

We may debate the fundamental nature of the intellectual level, but we can 
all agree that rationality is a dominant manifestation of it, and if you 
look at how devoid of rationality this ongoing quest for wealth is, you can 
see it for what it truly is. We build a society based on consuming and 
buying - the quest for things that have no value on any other level than the 
social level is allowed to direct and enslave the efforts of mankind, and in 
the process it might even end up causing the destruction of the very 
foundation of our existence as we know it.

This isn't news. But we are philosophers, and at we have adopted a Quality 
point of view, and we should all be able to identify the social levels 
attempts to blind rationality with empty social symbols. "Freedom"  - "The 
Pursuit of Happiness" - and above all "Patriotism" (a genuinely retarded 
word in my book) words that are used in exactly the same way that "Sieg 
 Heil" were; no matter the original or alternative meaning of the words, 
they are weapons of the social level.

Come on now! We should refuse words such as "patriotism" and other 
manifestations of rationality devoud social phenomena's, and we should try 
to work to create social patterns that are aimed at the cultivation of 
intellectual values - in balance with the other levels of course - and 
therefore it is important that we first and foremost realise our enslavement 
of these social values that is the capitalist system.

I'm trying to tell anyone what is the best way to do thins, I believe my 
view has been made clear many times over anyway, but I am saying that a part 
of me seems to die a little bit every time I see people on this forum 
seemingly mindlessly praising social level values, even more so here, 
because I see it every day, as do you, in the world we are part of. But 
here?

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09262008/watch.html

//Chris

> [Chris]
>> I keep saying over and over aging. And ideology cantered around the
>> freedom
>> to earn money is undeniably in service of the social level. It isn't
>> more
>> difficult than that. And Freedom. It's just a word.

[Khaled]
> Chris
> Last night, Bill Moyers had a Professor on named Andrew Bacevich, the
> book they were talking about is 'The Limits of Power: The End of American
> Exceptionalism "
>
> he also has a few other books out. check them at amazon
>
> he echoes exactly what you are saying.
> Most interesting is that 90% view our way of life, including excess,
> overspending, overconsuming, as a given right and equate it with freedom.
>
> PBS online might have the transcript.