[MD] MOQ & Deleuze

David M davidint at blueyonder.co.uk
Tue Sep 23 13:13:09 PDT 2008


Hi Ian

Well us MOQers are meant to value the intellectual level.

DM


>I have this post "starred" ... meaning to come back to it, I blogged
> something about Deleuze some time ago, (and Guattari and .... the
> other whatshisname ... "On Grammatology" foggie froggie.)
>
> Dangerous to admit you find these PoMo's actually speak sense ;-)
> Ian
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:31 PM, David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk> 
> wrote:
>> Hi Ham
>>
>> Always glad to be of service.
>>
>> Regards
>> David M
>>
>>> Greetings, David --
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm indebted to you for referencing this source:
>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deleuze
>>>>
>>>> some interesting ideas of Deleuze about how experience
>>>> and concepts relate that MOQers might like to ponder. Deleuze puts
>>>> difference before identity, or could that be
>>>> DQ/flux over SQ?
>>>
>>> How Deleuze's metaphysical concept of Difference may relate to Pirsig's
>>> levels and patterns remains to be seen.  But his theory offers new 
>>> support
>>> for my ontogeny of differentiated existents.  I was particularly struck 
>>> by
>>> Wiki's interpretation of this concept:
>>>
>>>   Traditionally, difference is seen as derivative from identity:
>>>   e.g., to say that "X is different from Y" assumes some X and Y
>>>   with at least relatively stable identities.  To the contrary, Deleuze
>>>   claims that all identities are effects of difference.  Identities are
>>>   not logically or metaphysically prior to difference, Deleuze argues,
>>>   "given that there exist differences of nature between things of
>>>   the same genus."  That is, not only are no two things ever the
>>>   same, the categories we use to identify individuals in the first
>>>   place derive from differences.
>>>
>>> Here's how The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy describes this French
>>> academician's contribution to philosophy:
>>>
>>> "Deleuze conceived of philosophy as the production of concepts, and he
>>> characterized himself as a 'pure metaphysician.'  In his magnum opus
>>> Difference and Repetition, he tries to develop a metaphysics adequate to
>>> contemporary mathematics and science - a metaphysics in which the 
>>> concept of
>>> multiplicity replaces that of substance, event replaces essence and
>>> virtuality replaces possibility."
>>>
>>> Thanks for pointing us to this reference, Dave.  It puts a new slant on
>>> the Beingness of Sartrean Existentialism.  I shall have to explore 
>>> Deleuze
>>> more thoroughly.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ham
>>>
>>>
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