[MD] apocalypse...now?

gav gav_gc at yahoo.com.au
Sat Sep 27 05:39:55 PDT 2008 

that was a care package

--- On Sat, 27/9/08, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:

> From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Received: Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 10:36 PM
> Send care package...
> 
> 
> 
> At 08:30 AM 9/27/2008, you wrote:
> >that's what i really love about this forum
> (sarcastic undertones): 
> >everyone already knows it all. anytime you want to turn
> on your 
> >brain, i'm here digger. and that goes for the rest
> of you dinosaurs 
> >(u know who you are)
> >.....sorry about the tone but nick's post reminded
> me that words 
> >*can* help, but only when they are real and true.
> >
> >so this is my truth: you prideful men, you baffle and
> nauseate me. 
> >how can u be so stupid? ....and now it is i that
> transgress. i know 
> >u are not stupid; i have known most of you for years.
> >
> >...i think it is down to an existential problem: how
> can u see and 
> >feel the implicit unified intelligence of life when u
> are running 
> >the egoic program all the time. it is impossible.
> >
> >gav's prescription: psychedelics, or an e for the
> scaredy cats. why 
> >do you think they are illegal?...u see through the
> egoic illusion. 
> >no ego NO FEAR...no control. i can't explain it to
> you...well i can 
> >and have but you haven't got the experiential
> analogues to allow you 
> >to comprehend it.
> >
> >okay most of you think i am crazy for suggesting the
> above....well 
> >sweet...that's a reaction by the way: it ain't
> you, it's the giant. 
> >oooooooh spooky.
> >
> >or....if you are too old (aldous huxley took lsd on his
> deathbed by 
> >the way), or think u are, then read/listen to eckhart
> tolle and let 
> >the words be rather than reacting against them.
> >
> >anyway i know you will probably ignore me but u cannae
> get round it 
> >me old dear fruitcakes: u exist to evolve, now or
> later: your choice 
> >my friends.
> >
> >gav's psychedelic menu:
> >shrooms: great, use with people u know what they are
> doing....obviously.
> >excellent in nature, promotes sense acuity, heightened 
> >co-ordination, empathy, intuition and wisdom/humour
> (inextricably linked).
> >
> >lsd: varies in potency, again check with people u
> trust. a little 
> >more edgy perhaps than shrooms but very similar and
> often freaking 
> >hilarious. albert hoffman (swiss chemist who
> synthesised lsd first), 
> >on his 100th birthday, implored the world to rediscover
> the healing 
> >potential of lsd: now more than ever. he said that it
> connects 
> >people back to the earth...to nature (the mother is
> always there kids).
> >
> >eeeeeees/ mdma: usually no bad effects: very hard to
> have a bad trip 
> >on an eee. promotes empathy and love. mdma is purer and
> 
> >better...usually. slight artificiality to the
> experience because 
> >there is no natural analogue of mdma, unlike lsd (ergot
> fungus)
> >...u can tell - the diff is obvious when the comedown
> kicks in.
> >
> >dmt: the granddaddy: the chemical produced by the
> pineal gland at 
> >birth and death. when u have the trigger amount you are
> gone: 
> >literally. your separate self is annihilated and the 
> >geometric/liquid majesty of reality is all....wow. only
> did it the 
> >once (properly) and when i came back to conditioned
> reality i 
> >laughed so deeply...i could feel the laugh coming from
> the earth 
> >through my bare feet and into my diaphragm.
> indescribable experience 
> >really: excellent grounder.
> >
> >bytheway...had one go at shrooms and one go at acid
> this year (both 
> >quite disappointing): no eees or dmt. i feel no need
> for more 
> >ingestion at the mo...but i will follow the signs.
> >
> >all the best.
> >gav
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- On Sat, 27/9/08, Peter Corteen
> <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Peter Corteen
> <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > Received: Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 8:54 PM
> > > No Gav, the sun and moon.
> > >
> > > 2008/9/26 gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > life is competition eh peter?
> > > > well who does gaia compete with? mars?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Sat, 27/9/08, Peter Corteen
> > > <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Peter Corteen
> > > <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> > > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > > Received: Saturday, 27 September, 2008,
> 1:10 AM
> > > > > life is competition - you can't
> escape that
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2008/9/26 gav
> <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > > > >
> > > > > > i don't think the world and
> capitalism
> > > can both
> > > > > survive...one has to go.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Fri, 26/9/08, Peter Corteen
> > > > > <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Peter Corteen
> > > > > <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [MD]
> apocalypse...now?
> > > > > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > > > > Received: Friday, 26
> September, 2008,
> > > 5:03 PM
> > > > > > > Call me cynical but I think
> the world
> > > much as it
> > > > > is now will
> > > > > > > survive this
> > > > > > > collapse; capitalism will
> continue.
> > > Like you, I
> > > > > think
> > > > > > > things will be better
> > > > > > > after the crisis subsides.
> The Wall
> > > Street
> > > > > agreement will
> > > > > > > go through, the
> > > > > > > stronger after it's
> difficult
> > > conception.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's going to be a long
> recovery
> > > but I think
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > markets have hit the bottom
> > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hallelujah, we're all
> going to the
> > > Lord!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Peter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2008/9/25 gav
> > > <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > i am dazzled by the
> glorious
> > > collapse of the
> > > > > world!!!!
> > > > > > > (henry miller)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > yes it is true: i am
> absorbed,
> > > intrigued,
> > > > > awestruck by
> > > > > > > the collapse...the
> > > > > > > > dumb greedy beast is
> terminal and
> > > ain't
> > > > > it grand!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > we are on the threshold
> of
> > > something
> > > > > entirely new
> > > > > > > (....or another world war
> > > > > > > > i suppose).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > no more isms, no more
> politicians,
> > > no more
> > > > > banker
> > > > > > > wankers, no more ceo
> > > > > > > > tossers, no more
> pointless
> > > academia: we
> > > > > gonna have to
> > > > > > > work boy!!!! the
> > > > > > > > cemeteries are gonna
> bloom: the
> > > fruit of the
> > > > > dead.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > remember,
> 'apocalypse'
> > > means to
> > > > > pierce the
> > > > > > > veil; it is not the end -
> > > > > > > > although it may well be
> the end of
> > > time (a
> > > > > mayan
> > > > > > > excursis for another time).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > we can see through the
> projections
> > > now; we
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > recognise the programming:
> > > > > > > > how we have been drilled
> to feel
> > > fear,
> > > > > shame,
> > > > > > > guilt...and we can let them
> > > > > > > > go. they belong to
> another epoch,
> > > a distant
> > > > > > > antediluvian time that will
> fade
> > > > > > > > rapidly from the memory
> as the new
> > > > > generations live
> > > > > > > fully and completely
> > > > > > > > with the earth and with
> each
> > > other.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > we are all different; we
> are all
> > > equal; we
> > > > > are all
> > > > > > > one: gaia.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > rock on
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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