[MD] apocalypse...now?

Sat Sep 27 06:02:28 PDT 2008

Gav,

Of course, in every sense of the words it was a care package and 
should be taken seriously.  I agree with you.

I just don't run with the lsd crowd.  Darn...

Marsha

At 08:39 AM 9/27/2008, you wrote:

>that was a care package
>
>--- On Sat, 27/9/08, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
>
> > From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> > Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Received: Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 10:36 PM
> > Send care package...
> >
> >
> >
> > At 08:30 AM 9/27/2008, you wrote:
> > >that's what i really love about this forum
> > (sarcastic undertones):
> > >everyone already knows it all. anytime you want to turn
> > on your
> > >brain, i'm here digger. and that goes for the rest
> > of you dinosaurs
> > >(u know who you are)
> > >.....sorry about the tone but nick's post reminded
> > me that words
> > >*can* help, but only when they are real and true.
> > >
> > >so this is my truth: you prideful men, you baffle and
> > nauseate me.
> > >how can u be so stupid? ....and now it is i that
> > transgress. i know
> > >u are not stupid; i have known most of you for years.
> > >
> > >...i think it is down to an existential problem: how
> > can u see and
> > >feel the implicit unified intelligence of life when u
> > are running
> > >the egoic program all the time. it is impossible.
> > >
> > >gav's prescription: psychedelics, or an e for the
> > scaredy cats. why
> > >do you think they are illegal?...u see through the
> > egoic illusion.
> > >no ego NO FEAR...no control. i can't explain it to
> > you...well i can
> > >and have but you haven't got the experiential
> > analogues to allow you
> > >to comprehend it.
> > >
> > >okay most of you think i am crazy for suggesting the
> > above....well
> > >sweet...that's a reaction by the way: it ain't
> > you, it's the giant.
> > >oooooooh spooky.
> > >
> > >or....if you are too old (aldous huxley took lsd on his
> > deathbed by
> > >the way), or think u are, then read/listen to eckhart
> > tolle and let
> > >the words be rather than reacting against them.
> > >
> > >anyway i know you will probably ignore me but u cannae
> > get round it
> > >me old dear fruitcakes: u exist to evolve, now or
> > later: your choice
> > >my friends.
> > >
> > >gav's psychedelic menu:
> > >shrooms: great, use with people u know what they are
> > doing....obviously.
> > >excellent in nature, promotes sense acuity, heightened
> > >co-ordination, empathy, intuition and wisdom/humour
> > (inextricably linked).
> > >
> > >lsd: varies in potency, again check with people u
> > trust. a little
> > >more edgy perhaps than shrooms but very similar and
> > often freaking
> > >hilarious. albert hoffman (swiss chemist who
> > synthesised lsd first),
> > >on his 100th birthday, implored the world to rediscover
> > the healing
> > >potential of lsd: now more than ever. he said that it
> > connects
> > >people back to the earth...to nature (the mother is
> > always there kids).
> > >
> > >eeeeeees/ mdma: usually no bad effects: very hard to
> > have a bad trip
> > >on an eee. promotes empathy and love. mdma is purer and
> >
> > >better...usually. slight artificiality to the
> > experience because
> > >there is no natural analogue of mdma, unlike lsd (ergot
> > fungus)
> > >...u can tell - the diff is obvious when the comedown
> > kicks in.
> > >
> > >dmt: the granddaddy: the chemical produced by the
> > pineal gland at
> > >birth and death. when u have the trigger amount you are
> > gone:
> > >literally. your separate self is annihilated and the
> > >geometric/liquid majesty of reality is all....wow. only
> > did it the
> > >once (properly) and when i came back to conditioned
> > reality i
> > >laughed so deeply...i could feel the laugh coming from
> > the earth
> > >through my bare feet and into my diaphragm.
> > indescribable experience
> > >really: excellent grounder.
> > >
> > >bytheway...had one go at shrooms and one go at acid
> > this year (both
> > >quite disappointing): no eees or dmt. i feel no need
> > for more
> > >ingestion at the mo...but i will follow the signs.
> > >
> > >all the best.
> > >gav
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- On Sat, 27/9/08, Peter Corteen
> > <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Peter Corteen
> > <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > Received: Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 8:54 PM
> > > > No Gav, the sun and moon.
> > > >
> > > > 2008/9/26 gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > life is competition eh peter?
> > > > > well who does gaia compete with? mars?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Sat, 27/9/08, Peter Corteen
> > > > <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: Peter Corteen
> > > > <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> > > > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > > > Received: Saturday, 27 September, 2008,
> > 1:10 AM
> > > > > > life is competition - you can't
> > escape that
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2008/9/26 gav
> > <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > i don't think the world and
> > capitalism
> > > > can both
> > > > > > survive...one has to go.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Fri, 26/9/08, Peter Corteen
> > > > > > <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: Peter Corteen
> > > > > > <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [MD]
> > apocalypse...now?
> > > > > > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > > > > > Received: Friday, 26
> > September, 2008,
> > > > 5:03 PM
> > > > > > > > Call me cynical but I think
> > the world
> > > > much as it
> > > > > > is now will
> > > > > > > > survive this
> > > > > > > > collapse; capitalism will
> > continue.
> > > > Like you, I
> > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > things will be better
> > > > > > > > after the crisis subsides.
> > The Wall
> > > > Street
> > > > > > agreement will
> > > > > > > > go through, the
> > > > > > > > stronger after it's
> > difficult
> > > > conception.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It's going to be a long
> > recovery
> > > > but I think
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > markets have hit the bottom
> > > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hallelujah, we're all
> > going to the
> > > > Lord!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Peter
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2008/9/25 gav
> > > > <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > i am dazzled by the
> > glorious
> > > > collapse of the
> > > > > > world!!!!
> > > > > > > > (henry miller)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > yes it is true: i am
> > absorbed,
> > > > intrigued,
> > > > > > awestruck by
> > > > > > > > the collapse...the
> > > > > > > > > dumb greedy beast is
> > terminal and
> > > > ain't
> > > > > > it grand!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > we are on the threshold
> > of
> > > > something
> > > > > > entirely new
> > > > > > > > (....or another world war
> > > > > > > > > i suppose).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > no more isms, no more
> > politicians,
> > > > no more
> > > > > > banker
> > > > > > > > wankers, no more ceo
> > > > > > > > > tossers, no more
> > pointless
> > > > academia: we
> > > > > > gonna have to
> > > > > > > > work boy!!!! the
> > > > > > > > > cemeteries are gonna
> > bloom: the
> > > > fruit of the
> > > > > > dead.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > remember,
> > 'apocalypse'
> > > > means to
> > > > > > pierce the
> > > > > > > > veil; it is not the end -
> > > > > > > > > although it may well be
> > the end of
> > > > time (a
> > > > > > mayan
> > > > > > > > excursis for another time).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > we can see through the
> > projections
> > > > now; we
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > recognise the programming:
> > > > > > > > > how we have been drilled
> > to feel
> > > > fear,
> > > > > > shame,
> > > > > > > > guilt...and we can let them
> > > > > > > > > go. they belong to
> > another epoch,
> > > > a distant
> > > > > > > > antediluvian time that will
> > fade
> > > > > > > > > rapidly from the memory
> > as the new
> > > > > > generations live
> > > > > > > > fully and completely
> > > > > > > > > with the earth and with
> > each
> > > > other.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > we are all different; we
> > are all
> > > > equal; we
> > > > > > are all
> > > > > > > > one: gaia.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > rock on
> > > > > > > > >
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