[MD] apocalypse...now?

Peter Corteen psigenics at googlemail.com
Sat Sep 27 17:13:10 PDT 2008 

HI gav, I tried some lsd three times when i was much younger - but I didn't
swallow it!

Smoked a fair amount of the old sensimile too.

I think you need more - you need to chill out - you sound a bit hyper.

Don't identify so much with your views.

-Peter



2008/9/27 gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>

> that's what i really love about this forum (sarcastic undertones): everyone
> already knows it all. anytime you want to turn on your brain, i'm here
> digger. and that goes for the rest of you dinosaurs (u know who you are)
> .....sorry about the tone but nick's post reminded me that words *can*
> help, but only when they are real and true.
>
> so this is my truth: you prideful men, you baffle and nauseate me. how can
> u be so stupid? ....and now it is i that transgress. i know u are not
> stupid; i have known most of you for years.
>
> ...i think it is down to an existential problem: how can u see and feel the
> implicit unified intelligence of life when u are running the egoic program
> all the time. it is impossible.
>
> gav's prescription: psychedelics, or an e for the scaredy cats. why do you
> think they are illegal?...u see through the egoic illusion. no ego NO
> FEAR...no control. i can't explain it to you...well i can and have but you
> haven't got the experiential analogues to allow you to comprehend it.
>
> okay most of you think i am crazy for suggesting the above....well
> sweet...that's a reaction by the way: it ain't you, it's the giant. oooooooh
> spooky.
>
> or....if you are too old (aldous huxley took lsd on his deathbed by the
> way), or think u are, then read/listen to eckhart tolle and let the words be
> rather than reacting against them.
>
> anyway i know you will probably ignore me but u cannae get round it me old
> dear fruitcakes: u exist to evolve, now or later: your choice my friends.
>
> gav's psychedelic menu:
> shrooms: great, use with people u know what they are doing....obviously.
> excellent in nature, promotes sense acuity, heightened co-ordination,
> empathy, intuition and wisdom/humour (inextricably linked).
>
> lsd: varies in potency, again check with people u trust. a little more edgy
> perhaps than shrooms but very similar and often freaking hilarious. albert
> hoffman (swiss chemist who synthesised lsd first), on his 100th birthday,
> implored the world to rediscover the healing potential of lsd: now more than
> ever. he said that it connects people back to the earth...to nature (the
> mother is always there kids).
>
> eeeeeees/ mdma: usually no bad effects: very hard to have a bad trip on an
> eee. promotes empathy and love. mdma is purer and better...usually. slight
> artificiality to the experience because there is no natural analogue of
> mdma, unlike lsd (ergot fungus)
> ...u can tell - the diff is obvious when the comedown kicks in.
>
> dmt: the granddaddy: the chemical produced by the pineal gland at birth and
> death. when u have the trigger amount you are gone: literally. your separate
> self is annihilated and the geometric/liquid majesty of reality is
> all....wow. only did it the once (properly) and when i came back to
> conditioned reality i laughed so deeply...i could feel the laugh coming from
> the earth through my bare feet and into my diaphragm. indescribable
> experience really: excellent grounder.
>
> bytheway...had one go at shrooms and one go at acid this year (both quite
> disappointing): no eees or dmt. i feel no need for more ingestion at the
> mo...but i will follow the signs.
>
> all the best.
> gav
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> --- On Sat, 27/9/08, Peter Corteen <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Peter Corteen <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Received: Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 8:54 PM
> > No Gav, the sun and moon.
> >
> > 2008/9/26 gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> >
> > >
> > > life is competition eh peter?
> > > well who does gaia compete with? mars?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 27/9/08, Peter Corteen
> > <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Peter Corteen
> > <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > Received: Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 1:10 AM
> > > > life is competition - you can't escape that
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2008/9/26 gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > > >
> > > > > i don't think the world and capitalism
> > can both
> > > > survive...one has to go.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Fri, 26/9/08, Peter Corteen
> > > > <psigenics at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: Peter Corteen
> > > > <psigenics at googlemail.com>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [MD] apocalypse...now?
> > > > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > > > Received: Friday, 26 September, 2008,
> > 5:03 PM
> > > > > > Call me cynical but I think the world
> > much as it
> > > > is now will
> > > > > > survive this
> > > > > > collapse; capitalism will continue.
> > Like you, I
> > > > think
> > > > > > things will be better
> > > > > > after the crisis subsides. The Wall
> > Street
> > > > agreement will
> > > > > > go through, the
> > > > > > stronger after it's difficult
> > conception.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's going to be a long recovery
> > but I think
> > > > the
> > > > > > markets have hit the bottom
> > > > > > now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hallelujah, we're all going to the
> > Lord!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2008/9/25 gav
> > <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > i am dazzled by the glorious
> > collapse of the
> > > > world!!!!
> > > > > > (henry miller)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > yes it is true: i am absorbed,
> > intrigued,
> > > > awestruck by
> > > > > > the collapse...the
> > > > > > > dumb greedy beast is terminal and
> > ain't
> > > > it grand!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > we are on the threshold of
> > something
> > > > entirely new
> > > > > > (....or another world war
> > > > > > > i suppose).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > no more isms, no more politicians,
> > no more
> > > > banker
> > > > > > wankers, no more ceo
> > > > > > > tossers, no more pointless
> > academia: we
> > > > gonna have to
> > > > > > work boy!!!! the
> > > > > > > cemeteries are gonna bloom: the
> > fruit of the
> > > > dead.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > remember, 'apocalypse'
> > means to
> > > > pierce the
> > > > > > veil; it is not the end -
> > > > > > > although it may well be the end of
> > time (a
> > > > mayan
> > > > > > excursis for another time).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > we can see through the projections
> > now; we
> > > > can
> > > > > > recognise the programming:
> > > > > > > how we have been drilled to feel
> > fear,
> > > > shame,
> > > > > > guilt...and we can let them
> > > > > > > go. they belong to another epoch,
> > a distant
> > > > > > antediluvian time that will fade
> > > > > > > rapidly from the memory as the new
> > > > generations live
> > > > > > fully and completely
> > > > > > > with the earth and with each
> > other.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > we are all different; we are all
> > equal; we
> > > > are all
> > > > > > one: gaia.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > rock on
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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