[MD] Catching up to Pirsig
X Acto
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Sat Apr 11 05:33:32 PDT 2009
> [Krimel]
> The answer to that is so patently obvious it hardly deserves
> consideration.
> We strive to survive because we are descended from survivors. It really
> is
> that simple. We have built into our DNA mechanisms, urges, emotions and
> needs that facilitate our survival. Those who do not have this inbred
> need
> do not survive. The questions is idiotic. It's like asking why don't we
> breath water? Survival is the imperative of all living things. Without
> it
> there would be no living things.
Platt:
A great non-answer. As Pirsig asked, "If life is strictly a result of the
physical and chemical forces of nature then why is life opposed to these
same forces in its struggle to survive?"
Krimel's thoughtful answer, "Don't ask."
Ron:
A non-answer to a non-question. IS life in opposition to physical and chemical forces? or is that
one way to view its processes, or one may view it as life exploiting these forces at every chance.
If Pirsig taught us anything it is that there is never one way to view experience, with this in mind
one should never tout his words as authoritative gospel.
Quality is experience, DQ and SQ are one of many ways to describe it linguistically.
What should be primary in the MoQ is this. I'm pretty sure Bob's intent was not to
construct another static giant to do battle with the old static giant rather to see the
static giant for what it is and ones own experience for what it is. We are the giant.
everyone of us. It may be changed, but it takes an open mind. Bo would have another
giant an MoQ giant which "rides" the old one. To me, Pirsig states a static giant
is not prefferable to ones own unique view. MoQ is about finding the blossoming lotus in
in ones own experience, then one sees the blossom in all experiences.
Your question then is a SOM question. Then, it IS better not to ask questions of this nature
because questions of this nature pull one deeper into intellectual systems, analytical systems.
Philosophical systems which have no correspondance with immediate experiences.
Observing patterns and their relations is one thing, developing and adhereing to concepts
about them as what IS is another.
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