[MD] Indiviidual Achievers

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Sun Apr 12 07:12:04 PDT 2009


Ron,

Screw the professional art scene.  During a 
terrible stressful period in my life, I made 
4by6-inch collages.  I do not think I have ever 
been as creative and happy in my life, and I got 
to satirize every personal and social insanity that generally pissed me off.


Marsha


At 08:17 AM 4/12/2009, you wrote:
>No, I have not...sort of down on the professional art scene.
>
>intuitive as ever. thanks for allowing me to realize this.
>
>-R
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>From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:12:24 AM
>Subject: Re: [MD] Indiviidual Achievers
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>Wow, Ron, it sure sounds like you haven't had too
>much time to be making art lately.
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>At 08:05 AM 4/12/2009, you wrote:
> >Platt,
> >I agree. It takes gumption and insight, not all given the opportunity he had
> >would change perception the way he did, but, one has to take into account
> >the society that is able to recognize it and
> >exhault it. Artists are little more
> >than street bums without someones patronage. I guess what I'm saying is
> >that it takes an appreciation along with indiviual talent to make Art.
> >-Ron
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> >
> >________________________________
> >From: Platt Holden <plattholden at gmail.com>
> >To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:33:01 AM
> >Subject: Re: [MD] Indiviidual Achievers
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> >
> >[Ron]
> > > "His father, Louis-Auguste Cézanne (28 July 1798 - 23 October 1886),[3]
> > > was the cofounder of a banking firm that 
> prospered throughout the artist's
> > > life, affording him financial security that 
> was unavailable to most of his
> > > contemporaries and eventually resulting in a large inheritance."-wiki
> > >
> > > Paul was not a lone individual. All depends on how one views a "free
> > > lunch".
> >
> >No one is a "lone individual" in the sense he doesn't have a family and
> >friends. But Cezanne, like many others who have achieved great things,
> >changed the world with his individual mind, heart, initiative, insight,
> >energy, creativity, ingenuity perseverance and skill -- and openness to the
> >creative force of DQ..
> >
> >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Platt Holden <plattholden at gmail.com>
> > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 3:02:56 PM
> > > Subject: [MD] Indiviidual Achievers
> > >
> > > All:
> > >
> > > Pirsig´s focus on the importance of the individual in responding to
> > > Dynamic
> > > Quality is evident throughout his writings, perhaps most eloquently
> > > expressed in Lila, Chap. 29:
> > >
> > > "That's what drives the really creative people-the artists, composers,
> > > revolutionaries and the like-the feeling that if they don't break out of
> > > this jailhouse somebody has built around them, they're going to die.
> > > "But they're not being contrary in a way that is just decadent. They're
> > > way
> > > too energetic and aggressive to be decadent. They're fighting for some
> > > kind
> > > of Dynamic freedom from the static patterns. But the Dynamic freedom
> > > they're fitting for is a kind of morality 
> too. And it's a highly important
> > > part of the overall moral process. It´s often confused with degeneracy
> > > but
> > > it´s actually a form of moral regeneration. Without its continual
> > > refreshment static patterns would simply die of old age."
> > >
> > > I was reminded of this passage this morning while reading a Wall St.
> > > Journal article about Paul Cezanne that begins:
> > >
> > > "For many modern artists Paul Cezanne was a talismanic figure, the shadow
> > > of his painting as impossible to escape as his achievement was to define.
> > > Throughout the 20th century, as scholars labored to construct a viable
> > > history of modern art, Cezanne (along with 
> Manet, Courbet and a handful of
> > > transgressive others) was posited as its fountainhead, the protean
> > > begetter
> > > whose countless progeny shaped a new aesthetic that placed vision and
> > > touch
> > > above formal and narrative concerns."
> > >
> > > Besides illustrating a human being´s response to Dynamic Quality, Cezanne
> > > almost single handily rescued painting from static boredom and eventual
> > > deterioration. That´s what the great  individual achievers do, whether a
> > > Paul Cezanne or a Niels Bohr. In pursuing the Conceptually Unknown in
> > > response to DQ they lift all the rest of us to new levels of freedom,
> > > versatility and beauty, revealing the creative force of DQ  in the
> > > process.
> > >
> > > Platt
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