[MD] Daffodils: a religion of experience.

[MarshaV]

KO,

You keep insinuating that I know something of what you are 
stating.  I may or may not.  The context of your statements are 
probably very different than the context of my hearing them.  You and 
I are very different constellations of static patterns of 
value.  There will be shared patterns but I would bet the 
relationships between them are more different than the same.  So no, 
I don't "know that".  You put sex and violence into a context I would 
never consider them.  And I bet I put song lyrics into a context that 
seems irrelevant.


Marsha


At 02:29 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote:
>Marsha,
>
>i was not trying to prompt a discussion about sex and violence and you know
>that; i was merely highlighting a 'pattern' that for me in no way can be
>said to be true - it just aint good english!
>When someone uses a word in an unfamiliar way ' all patterns are true' it is
>they who must define what they mean.
>
>-KO
>
>2009/4/15 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>
> >
> > KO,
> >
> > Maybe you can define what you mean by true and real.   Is there a
> > difference between experience and patterns?  Are the experience of loving
> > the same as one's thoughts about love?  I suppose that depends on how much
> > one is willing to ignore the thoughts and be with the experience.  Is maybe
> > real, like in reality, a series of nanoseconds of experience?
> >
> > I would prefer not to link sex and violence even in a post, so let's drop
> > it.  I've dropped cable and network television from my life for that very
> > reason.  Has something awful slipped through with my lyrics?
> >
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> > At 01:25 PM 4/15/2009, you wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Marsha,
> >> sorry if you received this twice - i got a 40k limit rejection message
> >> that
> >> i think applied to this email originally - i've cut out most of the
> >> associated quoted text now.
> >>
> >>
> >> i think the patterns are real - not true.
> >> When a woman or man starts to identify sex with violence then at same time
> >> they start associate violence with sex when it should be love. How can
> >> this
> >> be called true? It does not make sense to me. -KO
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > 2009/4/13 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> KO,
> >> >>
> >> >> What do you think?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> m
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> At 04:13 AM 4/13/2009, you wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>  Hello KO,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Well, wanting a cigarette is sometimes still an experience for me.
> >>  I've
> >> >>> actually thought of getting a dozen cartons and seeing if I could
> >> smoke
> >> >>> every cigarette within twenty-four hours.  But I I haven't yet.   I
> >> stopped
> >> >>> smoking because I thought a full breath was more fun than a labored
> >> breath.
> >> >>>  (I live in a stairmaster.)  That seemed true at the time, but...
> >> Also, I
> >> >>> live alone, so there was no one I would be in danger of killing.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> All these static patterns of value are true.  Unless, of course, one
> >> has
> >> >>> discovered they are all false.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Marsha
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list
> >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> >> Archives:
> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
> >>
> >
> > .
> > _____________
> >
> > Shoot for the moon.  Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.........
> > .
> > .
> > Moq_Discuss mailing list
> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> > Archives:
> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
> >
>Moq_Discuss mailing list
>Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
>http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
>Archives:
>http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
>http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/

.
_____________

Shoot for the moon.  Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.........
.
.