[MD] Daffodils: a religion of experience.

[MarshaV]

Not irrelevant, just not understood.  - Marsha



At 06:39 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote:
>Marsha, yes, apparently we are very different.
>You usually put song lyrics as a first email with its own subject. I take a
>look at the lyrics and then simply choose part of its context that i then
>juxtapose with a Don van Vleit lyric - so your song contexts are fine - its
>probably my replies that seem irrelevant.
>
>-KO
>
>2009/4/16 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>
> >
> > KO,
> >
> > You keep insinuating that I know something of what you are stating.  I may
> > or may not.  The context of your statements are probably very 
> different than
> > the context of my hearing them.  You and I are very different 
> constellations
> > of static patterns of value.  There will be shared patterns but I would bet
> > the relationships between them are more different than the same.  So no, I
> > don't "know that".  You put sex and violence into a context I would never
> > consider them.  And I bet I put song lyrics into a context that seems
> > irrelevant.
> >
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> > At 02:29 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote:
> >
> >> Marsha,
> >>
> >> i was not trying to prompt a discussion about sex and violence and you
> >> know
> >> that; i was merely highlighting a 'pattern' that for me in no way can be
> >> said to be true - it just aint good english!
> >> When someone uses a word in an unfamiliar way ' all patterns are true' it
> >> is
> >> they who must define what they mean.
> >>
> >> -KO
> >>
> >> 2009/4/15 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > KO,
> >> >
> >> > Maybe you can define what you mean by true and real.   Is there a
> >> > difference between experience and patterns?  Are the experience of
> >> loving
> >> > the same as one's thoughts about love?  I suppose that depends on how
> >> much
> >> > one is willing to ignore the thoughts and be with the experience.  Is
> >> maybe
> >> > real, like in reality, a series of nanoseconds of experience?
> >> >
> >> > I would prefer not to link sex and violence even in a post, so let's
> >> drop
> >> > it.  I've dropped cable and network television from my life for that
> >> very
> >> > reason.  Has something awful slipped through with my lyrics?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Marsha
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > At 01:25 PM 4/15/2009, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Marsha,
> >> >> sorry if you received this twice - i got a 40k limit rejection message
> >> >> that
> >> >> i think applied to this email originally - i've cut out most of the
> >> >> associated quoted text now.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> i think the patterns are real - not true.
> >> >> When a woman or man starts to identify sex with violence then at same
> >> time
> >> >> they start associate violence with sex when it should be love. How can
> >> >> this
> >> >> be called true? It does not make sense to me. -KO
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2009/4/13 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> KO,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What do you think?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> m
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> At 04:13 AM 4/13/2009, you wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>  Hello KO,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Well, wanting a cigarette is sometimes still an experience for me.
> >> >>  I've
> >> >> >>> actually thought of getting a dozen cartons and seeing if I could
> >> >> smoke
> >> >> >>> every cigarette within twenty-four hours.  But I I haven't yet.   I
> >> >> stopped
> >> >> >>> smoking because I thought a full breath was more fun than a labored
> >> >> breath.
> >> >> >>>  (I live in a stairmaster.)  That seemed true at the time, but...
> >> >> Also, I
> >> >> >>> live alone, so there was no one I would be in danger of killing.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> All these static patterns of value are true.  Unless, of course,
> >> one
> >> >> has
> >> >> >>> discovered they are all false.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Marsha
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list
> >> >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> >> >> Archives:
> >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> >> >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > .
> >> > _____________
> >> >
> >> > Shoot for the moon.  Even if you miss, you'll land among the
> >> stars.........
> >> > .
> >> > .
> >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list
> >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> >> > Archives:
> >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> >> > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
> >> >
> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list
> >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> >> Archives:
> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
> >>
> >
> > .
> > _____________
> >
> > Shoot for the moon.  Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.........
> > .
> > .
> > Moq_Discuss mailing list
> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> > Archives:
> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
> >
>Moq_Discuss mailing list
>Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
>http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
>Archives:
>http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
>http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/

.
_____________

Shoot for the moon.  Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.........
.
.