[MD] Daffodils: a religion of experience.

[MarshaV]

KO,

Well, this doesn't sound good.  Do you consider my mind to be 
chaotic?  I do not experience it as chaotic.  Nor from your post do I 
have reason to consider your mind to be chaotic.  I like van Vleit's 
combination of words. They seem interesting.  I cannot, though, find 
their meaning.  Isn't Quantum Theory also suppose to be beyond 
meaning?  Very dynamic!


Marsha


At 11:17 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote:
>Marsha,
>
>just think of it as a dynamic response from one chaotic mind to another.
>
>-KO
>
>2009/4/16 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>
> >
> >
> > Not irrelevant, just not understood.  - Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 06:39 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote:
> >
> >> Marsha, yes, apparently we are very different.
> >> You usually put song lyrics as a first email with its own subject. I take
> >> a
> >> look at the lyrics and then simply choose part of its context that i then
> >> juxtapose with a Don van Vleit lyric - so your song contexts are fine -
> >> its
> >> probably my replies that seem irrelevant.
> >>
> >> -KO
> >>
> >> 2009/4/16 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > KO,
> >> >
> >> > You keep insinuating that I know something of what you are stating.  I
> >> may
> >> > or may not.  The context of your statements are probably very different
> >> than
> >> > the context of my hearing them.  You and I are very different
> >> constellations
> >> > of static patterns of value.  There will be shared patterns but I would
> >> bet
> >> > the relationships between them are more different than the same.  So no,
> >> I
> >> > don't "know that".  You put sex and violence into a context I would
> >> never
> >> > consider them.  And I bet I put song lyrics into a context that seems
> >> > irrelevant.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Marsha
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > At 02:29 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Marsha,
> >> >>
> >> >> i was not trying to prompt a discussion about sex and violence and you
> >> >> know
> >> >> that; i was merely highlighting a 'pattern' that for me in no way can
> >> be
> >> >> said to be true - it just aint good english!
> >> >> When someone uses a word in an unfamiliar way ' all patterns are true'
> >> it
> >> >> is
> >> >> they who must define what they mean.
> >> >>
> >> >> -KO
> >> >>
> >> >> 2009/4/15 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > KO,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Maybe you can define what you mean by true and real.   Is there a
> >> >> > difference between experience and patterns?  Are the experience of
> >> >> loving
> >> >> > the same as one's thoughts about love?  I suppose that depends on how
> >> >> much
> >> >> > one is willing to ignore the thoughts and be with the experience.  Is
> >> >> maybe
> >> >> > real, like in reality, a series of nanoseconds of experience?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I would prefer not to link sex and violence even in a post, so let's
> >> >> drop
> >> >> > it.  I've dropped cable and network television from my life for that
> >> >> very
> >> >> > reason.  Has something awful slipped through with my lyrics?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Marsha
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > At 01:25 PM 4/15/2009, you wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi Marsha,
> >> >> >> sorry if you received this twice - i got a 40k limit rejection
> >> message
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> i think applied to this email originally - i've cut out most of the
> >> >> >> associated quoted text now.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> i think the patterns are real - not true.
> >> >> >> When a woman or man starts to identify sex with violence then at
> >> same
> >> >> time
> >> >> >> they start associate violence with sex when it should be love. How
> >> can
> >> >> >> this
> >> >> >> be called true? It does not make sense to me. -KO
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 2009/4/13 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> KO,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> What do you think?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> m
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> At 04:13 AM 4/13/2009, you wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>  Hello KO,
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Well, wanting a cigarette is sometimes still an experience for
> >> me.
> >> >> >>  I've
> >> >> >> >>> actually thought of getting a dozen cartons and seeing if I
> >> could
> >> >> >> smoke
> >> >> >> >>> every cigarette within twenty-four hours.  But I I haven't yet.
> >>   I
> >> >> >> stopped
> >> >> >> >>> smoking because I thought a full breath was more fun than a
> >> labored
> >> >> >> breath.
> >> >> >> >>>  (I live in a stairmaster.)  That seemed true at the time,
> >> but...
> >> >> >> Also, I
> >> >> >> >>> live alone, so there was no one I would be in danger of killing.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> All these static patterns of value are true.  Unless, of course,
> >> >> one
> >> >> >> has
> >> >> >> >>> discovered they are all false.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Marsha
> >> >> >> >>>
> >>
> >
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