[MD] Computers vs. Brains

[Andrew Vonderwueste]

This is my first post and my last and only excuse.

I don't know who Ken Wilbur is or what school of thought he belongs to but I wonder what he or you would say about rubber tires. As far as I know, a rubber tire is a single gigantic molecule. I imagine one might construct a class of such whole-heapish objects and label it ... platypi?

--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Platt Holden <plattholden at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Platt Holden <plattholden at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MD] Computers vs. Brains
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 1:32 PM

Hey Ham, 

[Ham]
> The Pirsigians will cheer at your conclusion, because they believe atoms
> and 
> rocks make conscious evaluations. 

No, Ham, Pirsigians do not believe rocks make conscious evaluations. You 
have conflated atoms and rocks. They are not the same. Ken Wilber makes the 
distinction clear: atoms are wholes, rocks are heaps. Wholes are entities 
like atoms, molecules and cells  They react to experience according to 
their level, inorganically or biologically. Rocks and other heaps like 
clouds, clothes and cars do not react to experience.

Regards,
Platt    
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