[MD] Philosophy and Philosophology

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John,
Quality is like that,
 But what I found interesting was how the form of ethics
created a "state of mind" consequently a state of emotion.

the quality of form is therefore important

form like intent

like desire

love



-Ron



----- Original Message ----
From: John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 2:37:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Philosophy and Philosophology

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:14 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> dmb quotes from chapter 20 of ZAMM:
>


> "He began to see that he had shifted away from his original stand. He was
> no longer talking about a metaphysical trinity but an absolute monism.
> Quality was the source and substance of everything.A whole new flood of
> philosophic associations came to mind. Hegel had talked like this, with his
> Absolute Mind. Absolute Mind was independent too, both of objectivity and
> subjectivity.
> However, Hegel said the Absolute Mind was the source of everything, but
> then excluded romantic experience from the "everything" it was the source
> of. Hegel's Absolute was completely classical, completely rational and
> completely orderly.
> Quality was not like that."
>
>
John quotes from Chapter 4 of ASOTC]

"I never understood why all the arguments among philosophers and scientists
about purpose in nature seemed so hollow.  What were they leaving out?  What
do we leave out of account in pondering this question?

The beginnings of an answer to this question came to me when I was studying
the philosopher Spinoza.  Here was a system more deterministic and
mechanical even than modern scientific theories of the universe.  Everything
from God to man down to every creature in the cosmos was bound by iron law.
Yet why did I sometimes emerge from reading Spinoza sensing freedom even in
my body?

It was because from Spinoza I happened to receive mental impressions in a
sequence and form that were organic and alive.
The *Ethics* itself, though on the surface a geometrically ordered system of
philosophy, is actually like an organism, moving, breathing, speaking , in
its arrangement and order, its inner changes and conflicts resolved and
dissolved, its thrusts and sudden halts, its gradualness, its
cumulativeness.  All this apart--though not entirely--from the content of
what Spinoza said.  In short, the *Ethics* acts to change my state of
consciousness.  Conversely, only in a somewhat different stat of
consciousness can I understand the *Ethics*."

Jacob Needleman, A Sense of the Cosmos

Quality IS like that.

John



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