[MD] MOQ, Beginings and Future: A Tribute

[X Acto]

yea Platt, I agree, Pirsig is a sell out.

all this academic stuff like writing and reading

just screwed it all up


the poor old arrogant diluded bastard

he should be put away and his books burned
if we are to save the REAL MOQ

it's for his own good

right on!!








 


----- Original Message ----
From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 3:04:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] MOQ, Beginings and Future: A Tribute

On 3 Aug 2009 at 15:13, Ian Glendinning wrote:

> Blimey Platt,
> 
> That Wordsworth quote from Tables Turn'd is much quoted by me and even
> I think in my "manifesto". Next time Bo interferes with his logic in
> attempting to achieve some closed definition of MoQ and/or Intellect,
> you will remember to quote it back at him ?
> 
> Hear hear.
> Let's not cage the living MoQ in an ivory tower of logic, sliced and
> diced with the analytic knife, please.
> Regards
> Ian

Blimey, Ian, I think Bo is trying to rescue the MOQ from the clutches of 
SOM logic and the largely smothering and irrelevant ivory tower 
philosophology that DMB and company paddle around in. But, Bo can 
speak of himself. That you and I like to quote Wordsworth indicates that 
despite many social level differences, we may be sympatico about the 
MOQ, especially its romantic and aesthetic impulses.

Regards,
Platt.  


> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Platt Holden<plattholden at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:36 AM, markhsmit <markhsmit at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> ZMM came in somewhere between The Journey to Ixlan and
> >> the Tao of Physics, a personal odyssey resulting in a spiritual
> >> experience.  Becoming one with Technology.  When Pirsig had
> >> his Taoist insight, he subsequently tied it (in Lila) to the 19th
> >> century philosophy of Evolution (yes, it is a philosophy);
> >>  and why not, everything else was being explained
> >>  with the philosophy of evolution, from psychology to
> >>  social behavior to the creation of the universe.  MOQ
> >> was enclosed into cage of logic.  Now, MOQ is being
> >> brought into the ivory towers where it will become another
> >> jewel on displayin the museum of philosophy.
> >> We all know that to define Quality is to diminish it.
> >>
> >
> > Well said. And needed saying. Wordsworth expressed a similar
> > weakening of meaning when logic interferes:
> >
> > "Our meddling intellect
> > Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things
> > We murder to dissect."
> >
> > Regards,
> > Platt

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