[MD] philosophy and education

[Ian Glendinning]

Gav, picking up on the same quote as Dave,

I too see "value-death" in use of terms - good expression. I recently
referred to the value of any original intent (in the word meme)being
"lost on the battlefield" - time to move on and build elsewhere - no
point "flogging a dead horse". In fact I've been using the same line
in another conversation with Matt about this very philosophology /
philosophy debate.

I also agree that this cannot be "centrally planned" from a root ...
there can be no "root and branch" replacement of a whole value system
... but it has to happen at any and all fertile points amongst the
branches. And it will, with nurture.

I think academia (or education, education, education in general) is
the place to hope (and be hopeful) for change. There is no other
place, though the place is an institution of people, not a location or
a building - so a skateboard park might do, at a push ;-)

Regards
Ian

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:01 AM, david buchanan<dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Gav said:
> ...and of course it is not just education that suffers this treatment. but as dave said: got to go to the roots - no use holding on to something which is terminally ill. ...and this is where i perhaps deviate from pirsig and dave (oh my god!), at least a little. i do think that change will occur at the academic level, but it will be slow. people like ant and dave are pioneers here. but this isn't the root; these are the topmost branches.
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> dmb says:
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> I don't think the system or rather the rationality behind it is terminally ill and there's reason to hope,