[MD] Introspection

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Thu Aug 6 13:25:59 PDT 2009



"Introspective Observation is what we have to rely on first and foremost and
always."
     (W.James)


So the James quote, a famous one at that, gets no comment against the Wiki
Behaviorists' dismissal?   



Marsha
  


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Marsha quotes James:

Here's a quote I particularly like, "Introspective Observation is what we
have to rely on first and foremost and always."

Ron:
I looked up the term "introspective" and found some very
interesting comments
from wiki:

"Behaviorists claimed that introspection was unreliable and that the subject
matter 
of scientific psychology should be strictly operationalized in an objective
and 
measurable way. This then led psychology to focus on measurable behavior
rather 
than consciousness or sensation.[1] Cognitive psychology accepts the use of
the 
scientific method, but often rejects introspection as a valid method of 
investigation for this reason, especially concerning the causes of behavior 
and choice."

"On the other hand, introspection can be considered a valid tool for the
development 
of scientific hypotheses and theoretical models, in particular in cognitive
sciences 
and engineering. In practice, functional (goal-oriented) computational
modeling and 
computer simulation design of meta-reasoning and metacognition are closely
connected 
with the introspective experiences of researchers and engineers."

"Introspection was used by German physiologist Wilhelm Wundt in the
experimental 
psychology laboratory he had founded in Leipzig in 1879. Wundt believed that
by 
using introspection in his experiments he would gather information into how
the 
subjects' minds were working, thus he wanted to examine the mind into its
basic 
elements. Wundt did not invent this way of looking into an individual's mind

through their experiences; rather, it can date to Socrates. Wundt's
distinctive 
contribution was to take this method into the experimental arena and thus
into 
the newly formed field of psychology."

"In Eastern Christianity, some of the concepts critical to addressing the
needs 
of man such as sober introspection, called nepsis, are specific to
watchfulness 
of the human heart and address the conflicts of the human nous, heart or
mind. 
Also noetic understanding can not be circumvented nor satisfied by
rationalizing 
or discursive thought (i.e. systemization)."

Some interesting terms associated with introspection:

"choice theory"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice_theory
which looks alot like a rough MoQ


a list of cognitive biases we all tend towards
in our static filtering that one should keep in mind
in introspective observation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases


      
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