[MD] logos

[Ian Glendinning]

Hi John, don't shoot the messenger - I agree with you - just pointing
out that a lot of the justification for space investment is the escape
route argument.

I agree with matt (wilmott) too - the LHC and the other
fusion-focussed investments are scary. As the possibilities of
destructive power grow - the need for better decision-making grows
too. We can't settle all conflict and disagreement by war.

(Picking up on the "Oppenheimer" reference - I'd recommend "The
Physicists" - Die Physiker - by Friedrich Durrenmatt - I keep thinking
the time for a new public production in English is nigh.)

Ian

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:41 PM, John Carl<ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, right,  an escape route from a perfectly fine, oxygen-rich place that
> gave us life to some desiccated boulder floating in vacuum where all systems
> would have to be perfectly engineered by a species that fouls its own nest.
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> Don't hold your breath.
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> John
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> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Ian Glendinning
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>> Those things are connected Marsha.
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>> Space travel, piles of garbage and asteroids. If we don't learn to
>> protect our current planet better soon - we may need an escape route.
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>> Regards
>> Ian
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>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:58 AM, MarshaV<valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>> > Where's the quality?  I've been  listening to the public-relation
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>> > presently moving at full-throttle, pushing space exploration:  should we
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>> > WTF?   Who is kidding who, it will become Space Weapons Express.
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