[MD] Philosophy and Philosophology

[Ian Glendinning]

Hi John, tell us more about Royce.

He's been "on my list" of US philosohers to follow-up ... I was
prompted to Google him in response to your note.

Really intrigued by this quote in his introduction on SEP.

"Royce's friendly but longstanding dispute with William James, known
as "The Battle of the Absolute," deeply influenced both philosophers'
thought. In his later works, Royce reconceived his metaphysics as an
"absolute pragmatism" grounded in semiotics. This view dispenses with
the Absolute Mind of previous idealism and instead characterizes
reality as a universe of ideas or signs which occur in a process of
being interpreted by an infinite community of minds. These minds, and
the community they constitute, may themselves be understood as signs.
Royce's ethics, philosophy of community, philosophy of religion, and
logic reflect this metaphysical position."

As well as the semiotic angle, I'd be really interested how you see
this "absolute pragmatism" position in the context of the ongoing
"radical empiricism" debates here.

Regards
Ian

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 1:46 AM, John Carl<ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
> However,the resolution of these paradoxes allows us to reach a 'higher'
>> level of consciousness, a higher level of 'understanding', a higher level
>> of
>> awareness... by going deeper and realising that apparent contradictions in
>> fact, at this deeper level, complement eachother.
>
>
> And right there, in a nutshell is what attracts me to Josiah Royce's later
> thoughts on Philosophy of Loyalty and Philosophy of Community.  I think
> those two things, loyalty and community, hold the best answers for this
> "synthesis of apparent contradiction" is what brings about lasting quality
> in thought and word.
>
>
>> What I am getting at is that standard logical methods, as a tool, have high
>> intellectual value. However, as a guide to aid our understanding they are
>> very inadequate. For this you need, as Reanney would have it,
>> the non-algorithmic, aesthetic approach.
>>
>
> Yes, or as Needleman asserts, you need "a teaching" - which is more than the
> transmission of facts in that there is an ordered sequence of information
> that is appropriate to where you are at the time.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts, Andre.  I find them very thoughtful and
> thought-provoking.  Hmmm.... weird that, the best adjective I can grant a
> thought was that it was a thoughtful thought.  An idealistic idea.  A
> conceptual concept.  Funny things, words.
>
> John
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