[MD] Salami & Wisdom ?

[X Acto]

In Platos works of Socrates, often debators would get angry and frustrated
with Socrates, they wanted to argue a point and come to a truth conclusion.
Socrates answered questions with questions dispersing the others contentions
of truth convictions with related contentions of truth and justice in koan like
fashon.

What does it mean to say that truth is relative?

does one mean that all truth are equal and meaningless?

or provisional and contextual having pertanace and meaning pragmatically?

were the ancient sophists relativists or pragmatists?

depends apon the point of view

if one seeks universal and absolute truths, laws of conduct and action.

then they would seem to be relativists

for no arguement of truth terms may be made against them

for those desiring right, truth, good, law

this is disturbing

Some sophists may have been guilty of using socratic method as a rhetorical
weapon, to render an opponant defenseless and open to rhetorical ridicule
and attack. Leaving public opinion of them ripe for the truth of Aristotle.

And the condemnation of the Sophists

Perhaps it was those Sophists, the ones using Socrated method as a rhetorical weapon
who brought on their own ruin.



-R





 


----- Original Message ----
From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:00:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Salami & Wisdom ?

Jan,
Desire is what it seems to be about

the crafting of it

of the utmost importance

does one desire truth

to be right and others wrong

vengance

security

rightousness

vindication

superiority

or

wisdom 


 


----- Original Message ----
From: Jan-Anders <jananderses at telia.com>
To: moq_discuss at lists.moqtalk.org
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:33:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Salami & Wisdom ?

Wisdom is the ability to choose the type of salami at your desire.

I just love the strips where Effie Munyon hangs at the grocery looking 
for a fat joint and walk home with a stinking cuttlefish.
I mean all aren't interested in the best.

Desire can be confusing if you look close. Desire is best at a distance.

(No smell)

Jan-Anders
>
> Marsha said to someone (whose name is irrelevant to my point)
>
> "You have as much wisdom as a thin slice of salami."
>
> I think there is a very important point here.
>
> We can tie ourselves in intellectual knots debating isms and ologies -
> and yes some of that is indeed necessary to promote and develop ideas
> - but it's not itself the whole point.
>
> I say (I just said in fact), we are wise if we can apply MoQ to living life.
>
> So if salami isn't it, what is wisdom ?
>
> Ian
>
>
>  
>  
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