[MD] Rorty's Relativism

Ian Glendinning ian.glendinning at gmail.com
Tue Aug 25 22:35:24 PDT 2009


Hi Matt, No fiat, I think I said "seems", (and with a question mark, too ?)

Anyway, seemingly spurious in the context of what I had just
summarized before that statement.
Ie how the views of relativism and absolutism affect the use of the MoQ.

Clearly where your subject is Rorty, game on.

Perhaps I should rephrase my point as a question - why is the debate
about Rorty's view of pragmatism relevant to recognizing that the MoQ
is neither absolutist, nor relativist (which appeared to have been
agreed) ?

Regards
Ian

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Matt
Kundert<pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> Ian said:
> I see violent agreement on the middle ground that MoQ
> provides. Any need to "attack" (or defend) Rorty just
> seems spurious ?
>
> Matt:
> I'm sorry, Ian, while on the one hand your constant,
> long-standing effort to find middle ground and the like is
> commendable, on the other hand, it is starting to sound
> edgy and nullifying.  As if you're going to start arguing that
> people should stop arguing.
>
> There's certainly a balancing act in all this (arguments,
> debates, conversations, etc.), but agreements, or what
> have you, can only be reached _through_ the conversations
> being had by motivated participants, not by fiat from
> someone that wants the conversations to stop.
>
> In other words, "spurious" is not the word you're looking for.
> You seem to have floated so high into the ether that
> everything's turned grey.  _That's_ relativism.  Relativism is
> pure Objectivism, pure Omniscience, just as the Blue Dude in
> Watchmen displayed so well.  The more he knew, the less
> humanity he had.
>
> There's nothing _spurious_ about attacking or defending Rorty,
> or any other set of opinions (unless, of course, one's take a
> God/Buddha's-eye view of the world)--there are only good and
> bad attacks or defenses, good or bad opinions.
>
> Matt
>
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