[MD] Consciousness (explained?)

Wed Aug 26 22:38:01 PDT 2009

Hi Ron,

What I was trying to impart was that there is more to this
world than opposites.  A chair does not have an opposite.
The presence of a chair does, that is, its absence,  But the
chair itself does not.  Isn't it possible to discern what is real
and what is not by wether it has an opposite?  Think about it.

I could have used table instead of chair, but then I guess we
could always table the chair idea.

Willblake2

On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:59:17 AM, "X Acto" <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
From:   "X Acto" <xacto at rocketmail.com>
Subject:    Re: [MD] Consciousness (explained?)
Date:   August 26, 2009 3:59:17 AM PDT
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Mark,
As the post reads, "chair" implies one,
it's is-ness.
to speak of nothing, implies something.

As you state, there is no "non chair"

opposites are implied in concepts.

the concept of a thing, immediately suggests no-thing

but we speak about nothing as if it were a thing.

"chair" is a very general word to denote usefulness

it could be a position one holds on a comittee

or anything used to sit apon

what kind of chair?

-Ron

----- Original Message ----
From: markhsmit <markhsmit at aol.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:58:56 PM
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Ron,
what is the opposite of a chair?

Willblake2

On Aug 23, 2009, at 6:21:58 AM, "X Acto" <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
From:  "X Acto" <xacto at rocketmail.com>
Subject:    Re: [MD] Consciousness (explained?)
Date:  August 23, 2009 6:21:58 AM PDT
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Mark,
and about reification of language
when intellectualizing

any one word
immediatly implies it's opposite 
it's IS-ness

we understand words in relation to  other words

-Ron

----- Original Message ----
From: markhsmit <markhsmit at aol.com>
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Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:57:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Consciousness (explained?)

Dwai,

Is this the same thing as the mind being a mirror?

Willblake2

On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:50:37 PM, "Dwaipayan Lahiri" <dlahiri at realsysadmin.com> wrote:
From:  "Dwaipayan Lahiri" <dlahiri at realsysadmin.com>
Subject:    Re: [MD] Consciousness (explained?)
Date:  August 22, 2009 8:50:37 PM PDT
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Can the Sun shine on it's own light? The Light is it's nature.
Consciousness is the nature of the subject. What it illuminates is
the object.

Dwai Lahiri
Ph: 847-845-9956
http://www.realsysadmin.com
dlahiri at realsysadmin.com

On Aug 22, 2009, at 10:20 PM, craigerb at comcast.net wrote:

> 
> Bo,
> Can you explain for me the difference between 'subject/object'
> & 'the value of subject/object'.
> Craig
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