[MD] Overturning Hierarchies

[Ian Glendinning]

Hi John, oh wow ...
"community building methodology" is my game.

Since most people prefer to "argue" - the macho style of critical
debate - my style is in deliberate counterbalance. But my agenda is
far more subtle than "please stop arguing boys, or I'll simply have to
scream" - if you're reading Matt / DMB.

As a community, one reason to argue is to test - and re-inforce - our
love for each other ;-)
But we have to do "more than" argue critically.

(BTW if you are serious about the "Pirsig Library" idea - Henry Gurr
has an on and off project to establish a permanent home for
manuscripts and artefacts of various relevance - including talking to
people in Bozeman about a possible physical location to house it, as
well as on-line access. He's certainly collecting / cataloging the
contents.)

Take care,
Ian


On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:51 PM, John Carl<ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Ian Glendinning <ian.glendinning at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> A group has to come out the other side of something together to become
>> a community.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Ian
>
>
> nay, thank you Ian.  I talk about this a lot, but I don't find that much
> thought out there on the subject.  So some "else" to engage is a delight to
> my old bones.
>
> Where Peck is interesting in contrast to group theory is "emptiness".
> Emptiness is exactly that "something" that the group must go through in
> order to self-identify on a more comprehensive awareness.
>
> This emptiness can be observed often  when people endure disasters togeter -
> all their normal static patterns are disrupted allowing for a new freedom of
> interpersonal communication. For a short period people drop their normal ego
> boundaries and care for the other.   It can be replicated in a special
> community building methodology.
>
> And I will be talking about this a lot.  Right now I'm at the Grass Valley
> library checking out more books on Royce.  Boy, this library sure has an
> extensive collection.  I guess that stems from being named after the guy.
>
> We should start a fund for a Robert M. Pirsig Library  - men pass on, but
> libraries are forever.
>
> John
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