[MD] requiem for a dmb

[John Carl]

Ok, Marsha, here goes:

Also, when does opinion collapse into a assumption and then flatten into
> conclusion?


The best example I can think of illustrate my understanding and terminology
of assumption and conclusion is when RMP concludes Quality is real by
assuming that it is not.  Do you get my point?  I can explain more, but then
I am almost as bad as my wife's brother when it comes over-explaining, like
the girl spelling banana, just tell me when to stop.

Assumptions are the necessary premises for an argument which comes to a
conclusion.  Sometimes, in fact most often, the assumptions are completely
valid.  "I assume you comprehend english?"  would sound condescending if I
used it in an argument.

But that would not technically be a technical argument.  That'd be an
example of that nasty sophistry that we are taught to despise in logic
class, which is a whole 'nother issue.

Now, back to your original question about where I got my assumption of
"everyone craving community" it threw me, as your questions often do, for I
didn't say "craving", that was your choice of word.  And my question would
be then, where do you get your assumption that my words can be construed to
mean "everyone craves community"?

For I certainly don't believe that. I would say everyone needs community on
some level;  just to get here it took two people to commune for a short
time.   There has never been, in any history, myth or anthropological record
anywhere evidence that humans have ever lived in anything but co-operative
social groups - usually of about tribe size.

That's my conclusion.