[MD] The relativity of the MoQ

[Steve Peterson]

Hi Platt,


> Right. For me Quality, beauty is there all the time, all around us,  
> in the
> trees, the earth, the sky, the emptiness of space. It is there  
> waiting for
> us to rejoin it. At death it is as if we move from one side of our  
> senses to
> the other, from the highly filtered, highly processed world inside the
> brain to the true unbounded universe where subjective and objective
> coalesce.  We step out of the dense fog of introverted human  
> perception
> to  the clear air of reality. Where beauty is we will be.

If Quality=reality=experience then we don't need to concerned with  
any "dense fog of introverted human perception" that stands between  
us and the world as it really is. The MOQ perspective as I understand  
it makes it impossible to imagine being out of touch with reality  
since experience IS reality, so we never need to worry about trying  
to get back in touch with it after death. On the other hand, Pirsig  
wrote bits about the possibility of "taking off the cultural glasses"  
that contradict this view, but I think such passages are a step  
backward from the Quality postulate to a subject-object, appearance- 
reality picture where taking off the glasses as a philosophical goal  
makes sense. Maybe Pirsig would respond with something about 180  
versus 360 Zen. I remember reading something like that somewhere. Do  
you recall where?

Best,
Steve