[MD] The Death Panels
skutvik at online.no
skutvik at online.no
Mon Aug 31 23:44:49 PDT 2009
John the ......
On 29 Aug. you wrote :
> I'm also pretty lackadaisical about retirement. The year I'm too old
> to put in a garden, I'll starve. My wife and children are instructed
> then to toss my remains in the diggins for the feeding pleasure of the
> coyotes. Hopefully not for a while. I'm feeling pretty good right now.
> John the health nut
I like your attitude and style
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In a post this day to Ron you said:
> You were someone else I was thinking about today, because I remember a
> post some short time back wherein you raised the point that SOM oughta
> really be termed Objectivism, in its aspect of being value-free. And
> that made sense to me.
> So I was gonna ask you some questions, because after all the natural
> effect of looking up Objectivism and finding Ayn Rand's name plastered
> all over the doors of entry into the thing, then that makes Ayn Rand
> the mother of SOM, by your formulation, and thus I wonder how Platt
> and Ham get away with extolling her virtues when she's the MoQ
> equivalent of Jezabel, Delilah and Salome and Satan, all at once....
> Hmmm???? What is going on?
Asking Ron anything about the MOQ is asking for confusion. SOM
emerged as Pirsig tells in ZAMM and one may say that its first stage:
Socrates' "Truth vs Appearance" were "objectivity over subjectivity" so
you see subjectivity is a much SOM as objectivity. It is the S/O
distinction!!!!
At the time Pirsig wrote ZAMM the objective (substance) part may
have been SOM's "mean horn" (as he says) but to-day its is
subjectivity, for instance that the performer of a scientific experiment
determines the outcome Both are MOQ's opponents.
Bodvar
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