[MD] SOM's defect comes home to roost

[John Carl]

Ok Ron, I'll buy that.  Environmentalism is the kindergarten of a Quality
Metaphysics.

MoQ ho!



On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:32 AM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> John,
> Excellent points and one that I feel falls within the context of
> environmentalism itself. But certainly in my own opinion any
> environmentalism is prefferable to none at all.
> Ho!
> -Ron
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 11:26:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] SOM's defect comes home to roost
>
> Ron,
>
> The deadly effect of environmentalism is the objectification of man's
> relationship with nature into a human-centered values system - with long
> range repercussions undreamt of at the outset.  This was Deep Ecology's
> insight into SOM's subsuming of values.
>
> Even in a shallow way, if we look at global warming as a real effect of
> man's planetary dominance, then we could see it as the planet's defensive
> immune system attacking the human cancer which is growing beyond natural
> limits.  Therefore, society's urge to mitigate the fever without really
> curing the disease is a far worse problem than having to relocate coastal
> population centers further north.
>
> imo,
>
> John
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:38 AM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What are the deadly consequences of environmentalism?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 9:36:13 AM
> > Subject: [MD] SOM's defect comes home to roost
> >
> > Hi All:
> >
> > One of the main messages of the MOQ is SOM's lack of morality:
> >
> > "But having said this, the Metaphysics of Quality goes on to say that
> > science, the intellectual pattern that has been appointed to take over
> > society, has a defect in it. The defect is that subject-object science
> has
> > no provision for morals." (Lila, 22)
> >
> > Now with the revelation in e-mails that several renowned scientists have
> > been fudging climate warming data we once again see evidence of
> > Pirsig's truth. Because they lack a "provision for morals" in their
> > worldview, it is all too easy for scientists to succumb to sinful
> behavior.
> > Sure, they talk a good game about transparency, honesty and
> > objectivity. But the historical record shows otherwise including, among
> > other hoaxers, Mengele on medicine, Mead on Samoans, Kinsey on sex
> > and Carlson on DDT.
> >
> > The current exposure of a data cover up in service of a political agenda
> > should serve as a warning against blind acceptance of scientific
> > authority so prevalent among today's intellectuals. In such circles, the
> > language of "right" and "wrong" has been displaced by the phrase, "The
> > research shows . . ."  But what if the research is fraudulent? The UN's
> > answer: "Never mind."
> >
> > Because of  SOM's "defect" we're being led down the primrose path of
> > environmentalism with potentially deadly consequences. We can only
> > hope that the scientific community will clean up its own house. But don't
> > bet on it. I suspect leftist ideology will again trump honesty.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Platt
> >
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