[MD] SOM's defect comes home to roost

Tue Dec 1 11:08:52 PST 2009

good to have you back Marsha

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From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
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Yea Bald Eagles!!!  Sitting outside my bedroom window, they are a beautiful
site.    

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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of X Acto
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:29 PM
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wow Platt you are right

"Along with the passage of the Endangered Species Act, the US ban on DDT is
cited by 
scientists as a major factor in the comeback of the bald eagle, the National
bird 
of the United States, from near-extinction in the contiguous US."

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From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
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Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 1:17:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] SOM's defect comes home to roost

Check out the consequences of the ban on DDT, especially in Africa.

On 1 Dec 2009 at 6:38, X Acto wrote:

> What are the deadly consequences of environmentalism?
> 
> 
> 
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> From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 9:36:13 AM
> Subject: [MD] SOM's defect comes home to roost
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> One of the main messages of the MOQ is SOM's lack of morality:  
> 
> "But having said this, the Metaphysics of Quality goes on to say that 
> science, the intellectual pattern that has been appointed to take over 
> society, has a defect in it. The defect is that subject-object science has

> no provision for morals." (Lila, 22)
> 
> Now with the revelation in e-mails that several renowned scientists have 
> been fudging climate warming data we once again see evidence of 
> Pirsig's truth. Because they lack a "provision for morals" in their 
> worldview, it is all too easy for scientists to succumb to sinful
behavior. 
> Sure, they talk a good game about transparency, honesty and 
> objectivity. But the historical record shows otherwise including, among 
> other hoaxers, Mengele on medicine, Mead on Samoans, Kinsey on sex 
> and Carlson on DDT.
> 
> The current exposure of a data cover up in service of a political agenda 
> should serve as a warning against blind acceptance of scientific 
> authority so prevalent among today's intellectuals. In such circles, the 
> language of "right" and "wrong" has been displaced by the phrase, "The 
> research shows . . ."  But what if the research is fraudulent? The UN's 
> answer: "Never mind." 
> 
> Because of  SOM's "defect" we're being led down the primrose path of 
> environmentalism with potentially deadly consequences. We can only 
> hope that the scientific community will clean up its own house. But don't 
> bet on it. I suspect leftist ideology will again trump honesty. 
> 
> Regards,
> Platt
> 
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