[MD] Is Quality Different from (Mother) Nature?

[markhsmit]

On Dec 2, 2009, at 1:53:27 PM, "Ham Priday" <hampday1 at verizon.net> wrote:
[Ham]
As for the ontogeny--the creation process, the Self comes into existence as 
a negation of Essence. Conscious sensibility is therefore an individualized 
"reduction" of Absolute Essence actualized by the separation of Sensibility 
from its estranged Source. As negated entities, what we experience (and 
know directly) is the "intellectualized content" of our value sensibility.

>From this brief précis, perhaps you can see why I regard Quality (Value) as 
subjective realization, rather than the intrinsic property of an objective 
universe. Perhaps, also, you can appreciate why I consider Freedom (i.e, 
free choice and the morality to which one subscribes) to be an exclusive 
option of the cognizant human being. How this ontogeny matches up with 
Pirsig's Quality thesis (if at all) is a question best answered by the 
charter MoQists.

Thanks for the opportunity, Joe.

Kindest regards,
Ham
Hi Ham,
I have an understanding of your ontology, certainly not as deep as yours, my understanding
is of the limited intellectual variety.  I appreciate you putting it into words.  Because of my
limited understanding, I find it a bit thin.  How do you explain this separation of Sensibility?
Yes, it is a way of looking at awareness, but by creating duality with Essence and its
negation you leave some fundamental questions unanswered.  Perhaps it is not for
us to get more details.  When a bubble forms in a glass, that air is estranged from it's
source, and momentarily has existence (Sensibility).  This kind of explanation gives me
a better sense of what you are talking about.  Is there meaning to our separation?  Is it
to observe essence?  Did essence need a vacation?

Thanks,
Mark



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