[MD] The Quality of Freedom

[markhsmit]

Hi Joe and Ham

[Joe]
> I cannot define myself, and I know I exist. Not everything I know
> is definable. Movement does not rely on a definition for existence.
> The act of a being that can with the emphasis on can. Movement
> depends on what you are looking at.
[Ham]

I disagree that "not everything [you] know is definable". Empirical 
knowledge is by definition definable. If existence is the relational system 
in which objects are perceived to evolve in time and space, does this not 
define movement and change? Doesn't the subjective awareness that 
apprehends your being in the world define "your self"? Likewise, what you 
don't know can be defined as that about which you are ignorant or not 
informed.
[Mark]
Definitions put the context of something into a relational context.  Things are defined
by words, which in turn are used to define that which they are defining.  So definitions
only go so far.  The content of knowing in this sense is only relational.  I know something
because I can relate it to something else.  In my opinion, "knowing" is beyond the
intellect (definition: a mechanistic method for relationships).  Such knowing happens
through something deeper.  If we feel we know something, what we are saying is
that the words, actions, and logic make us feel content.  When one changes his mind,
it is not because of logic, but because it feels better.  Illumination happens when the
glow of emotional attachment grows stronger.  So, while it may be possible to "define"
things in relation to other things, such definition may appear to be inadequate to
a third party.  Knowing through definitions is quite different from Knowing.  One can
know beauty, but not be able to define it.  In fact, I would go so far as to say that
greater than 90% of what we Know, we cannot define.