[MD] The American Ruling Class

[Marsha Valkyr]

On Dec 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, John Carl wrote:

> seasoned greetings Marsha m'dear,
> 
> 
>> By 'conscious of Quality' I mean awareness.
> 
> 
> 
> Tricky things, these words we use.  "conscious of" as opposed to "awareness"
> - but not "awareness of"   means that Quality is the object of consciousness
> but not of awareness?  I guess i could step back now and let you untangle
> that for me, but it seems beside the point.  Mine, anyway; which is the
> fundamental basis of reality being a sort of "right way of stroking the
> cat's fur" that I don't feel a lot of concordance upon.

Reality is what ever you think it to be.  Whatcha thinking?   




>> Awareness is a good thing.  Patterns are patterns, they are here and gone,
>> here and gone, here and gone.  Awareness is more than just words, and I find
>> dwelling in awareness an improvement, not utopia, but an improvement.
>> 
> 
> for me, I often prefer oblivion.  Sleep.  Drugs.  Alcohol or the small
> death of knowing that comes when I do.   Sometimes, for me anyway, awareness
> is just a big drag.  So much sorrow, so much sadness and so much wrong.
> It's more fun being stupid, ignorant and blind, I swear.  Maybe sometimes
> its better to be aware, but not often.

So much...  Do you really think the patterns that you project onto the world are the actual world?  Am I talking to a god?   Where did these gloom and doom patterns come from?  Not TV, you don't have one of those, but where?  Whose interpretation?  

What do you really know?  



>> It can be a time of year with too many expectations demanding attention.
>> The expectations are just patterns too.  The crap we are in is a cluster of
>> patterns.
> 
> 
> 
> Why is there so much joyous recognition in my soul over this gloomy
> misanthropic sneer at all the who's down in whoville who like christmas a
> lot?  Why when Ebenezer goes "bah humbug" I go, "hell ya!" deep down inside?
> If it's just a bad response on my part, then why the artistic creations
> which objectify it for me and offer it on display?  Somebody somewhere knows
> what I'm talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWttTsSCUwI&feature=related




>> I like to celebrate Yule by stringing cranberries, popcorn and sunflower
>> seeds on a tree for the birds.  And Yule represents the rebirth of the sun;
>> the days start to get longer.
>> 
>> 
> 
> I haven't always been tuned to the phases of the moon, but I do know and
> honor my solstices.  I was hoping that some sort of week-long Native
> ceremony would be my excuse to avoid Christmas this year but it looks like
> they're holding it to just this weekend in order to avoid conflicting with
> people's work schedules.


I celebrate Yule, and last night made for my four black cats toys filled with catnip, quality toys filled with catnip.

What fun!
 
 
Marsha













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>> On Dec 17, 2009, at 12:39 PM, John Carl wrote:
>> 
>>> Salutations Marsha,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Here are the words of one Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj:
>>>> 
>>>> "Causes and results are infinite in number and variety.  Everything
>> affects
>>>> everything.  In this universe, when one thing changes, everything
>> changes.
>>>> Hence the great power of man in changing the world by changing himself."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Man changing himself sounds as likely as a babe changing its own diapers.
>>> Can a leopard change its spots?  And what is change?  Change in patterned
>>> and unpatterned Quality is continuous and illusory, both at once.  If
>>> anything is illusory, it is this thing called "change".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> , of course, I think patterns, not things.  But this is how I tend to
>> see
>>>> improvement in the world happening by Quality decisions.  How does one
>> make
>>>> quality decisions?  By consciously being Quality.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> You seem to think Quality is a good thing, but most people on this forum
>>> attribute no intrinsic goodness to Quality.  That's too idealistic.
>>> 
>>> Improvement?  What is improvement?  Why does the world need to improve?
>> Why
>>> does a man need to consciously be Quality?  What does that even mean?
>>> Nobody knows.  Everything we do and say and share is just words meant to
>>> make us feel better about the crap we are in.
>>> 
>>> Maybe I should just go sit on a hot stove for a while till my butt burns.
>>> Then I can knowingly make a  Quality decision to get off and improve the
>>> world that way.  Nothing much else seems to lead anywhere meaningful.
>>> 
>>> Sigh.
>>> 
>>> Sorry.
>>> 
>>> I am in a mood.  I should probably not inflict it upon others.
>>> 
>>> That would probably help the world.
>>> 
>>> John  the misanthropic cheese
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