[MD] Plain and Simple

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Marsha,
I have been following your recent posts on Buddhism
and they are excellent. This post brought up the discussion
Matt and I were having about pre-intellectual experience
being a fantasy. Matt made some fairly good remarks
supporting this notion and the line drawn between 
intellectual and pre-intellectual is practically invisible.
The quote below seems to agree with Pirsig that there
is a useful practicle distinction between the two.
Matt seems to think that this is making a preferance
to certain kinds of experience (the hot stove example)
I think it merely pays homage to primacy and primacy
another word for "plain and simple"...
This is an interesting discussion for me, do not know
if it is for yourself or Matt, but it's worth developing
in my opinion.
-Ron

 


----- Original Message ----
From: Marsha Valkyr <valkyr at att.net>
To: MoQ <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 9:31:26 AM
Subject: [MD] Plain and Simple



I decided to reread Steve Hagen's book 'Buddhism Plain and Simple'.


  "What is the Basic human problem that no apparent remedy will cure?  What is our  existence all abut?  How can we ever possibly comprehend the whole of it?  And yet isn't knowledge of the Whole --- knowledge that's not relative or dependent on changing conditions --- precisely what would be required to free us from the doubts and dilemmas that cause us so much anxiety?

  "We long to be free from our confusion and discontent, not to have to live out our lives chained helplessly to uncertainty and fear.  Yet we often do not realize that it's precisely our confused state of mind that binds us.

  "There is a way to move beyond this ignorance, pessimism, and confusion, and to experience --- rather than comprehend --- Reality as a Whole.  This experience is not based on any conception or belief; it is direct perception itself.  It's _seeing_ before signs appear, before ideas sprout, before falling into thought."

        (Hagen, Steve, 'Buddhism: Plain and Simple', Tuttle Co., inc., P. 2)






  
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