[MD] Where does ligic itself belong inside the MOQ?

[Andre Broersen]

Ron to Bodvar:
therefore 2+2=4 is based on abstract symbols that have no
corresponding experience. It is an abstraction based on the concept of
a whole entity.

whether animals are capable of this sort of conceptualization is
debatable since this is what Pirsig describes as defining the human
intellectual level "the manipulation of abstract symbols with have no
corresponding experience"

Andre:
You say it so much clearer Ron and it nicely ties in with Pirsig's
definition of the intellectual level which I omitted to mention.

Cheers
Andre