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MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Sun Feb 1 00:18:28 PST 2009


Greetings Micheal,

At 07:06 PM 1/31/2009, you wrote:
> > From: MarshaV
> > > > From: MarshaV
> > > > 208 "The MOQ would add a fourth stage where the term "God" is
> > > > completely dropped as a relic of an evil social suppression of
> > > > intellectual and Dynamic freedom. The MOQ is not just atheistic
> > > > in this regard. It is anti-theistic."
> > >
> > >MP: Thanks for those, Marsha.
> > >
> > >The one that I think most caught my eye was the one above. The question I
> > >think that needs to be asked of adherents of MoQ is: Does the MoQ's anti-
> > >theistic nature demand anti-theistic responses to theism in seeking
> > >Quality in a theistic world? Is anti-theism the way to covercome 
> theism in an MoQ approach
> > >just because the MoQ is itself anti-theistic?
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Would it be acceptable to argue that the sun is in the center of the
> > solar system with someone who believes the Earth to be in the center
> > of the solar system?   Yes.
> >
> > Marsha
>
>MP: Yes. A true statement, but I don't see that its applicable to 
>theism; where
>you can objectively/mathematically disprove (as much as one's acceptance of
>reality permits) that the sun circles the earth, you can't do that with the
>existence of God.

There is not a special category of knowledge that should remain 
untouched by inquiry, challenge and debate.


>If instead you are faced with a need to "convert" (which is, for all 
>intents and
>purposes what you guys are talking about) why would you so blatantly go about
>it doing it like religions did? Like the very things you criticize 
>in preaching for the
>conversion?

Like religions did?  I think not!   Inquiry, challenge and debate...


>In purporting to be higher in evolution, it appears decidedly common 
>to use the
>same approach as that thing you claim has been surpassed, that should be
>discarded for the replacement. And it will be equally as ineffective 
>as it was
>before. Myth for myth is all that will happen. No understanding. No Quality
>achieved. Just more stasis.
>
>IMO of course.

Conventionally speaking, myth for myth is all that can happen, with a 
movement towards stasis in some areas and movement towards freedom in 
other areas.


Marsha








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