[MD] new blog

[Michael Poloukhine]

> dmb says:
> I suspect that if the church leaders ever had a first-hand
> experience of this mystical awareness they would see that the story
> symbolically references it and then they wouldn't encourage the
> actual, literal babbling that goes on every Sunday.

MP: Right. And then they'd encourage the *real* babbling, and they do it with 
even *more* theistic fervor. You're ok with that?

If you don't reject the first hand experience the *theistic* preacher may have in 
his beliefs, then you simply have a problem with the *manner* in which 
knowledge or understanding of theistic mystical experiences are disseminated 
to others. Why then do you reject theism (by any definition)? Or is it that 
mystical experiences are disseminated at all (necessarily second hand) that you 
take issue with?

If I have a revelation tomorrow about g*d (or MoQ for that matter...) should I not 
tell anyone? And if I tell someone... should they not tell anyone else? That'd be 
second hand. If they don't tell anyone else... how will anyone ever know about 
it? I gotta tell the whole world first hand? Doesn't seem a very Quality way to go 
about it.

Pirsig had a mystical revelation, a "seed" moment. He wrote two books about it, 
and we are talking about it all here. Should I not listen to those of you who've 
spoken to Pirsig about it? Should I only talk directly with Pirsig about my 
questions of his experience? 

What's the point of this very listserve if not to disseminate that mystical 
experience second hand? Why do you post at all here if not to convey your 
second hand opinions of someone else's mystical experience?



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Michael Poloukhine
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