[MD] The Science of Red

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Hi Marsha,
Loved tragic age of the greeks by the way, science deals with explainations.
science extracts concepts which are verifyable with experience in universal
terms. We all may experience red if one has eyes that respond to light, but 
we all respond differently to that experience, how relational patterns connect
to our unique experiences shape the personal experience of red.
Associative experiences define the relation of the experience. Therefore
red is not merely a frequency of particles behaving in waves, it is the reaction
of those particles and interaction which give red its phenomena along
with our relational experience of that phenomena.
science may explain the phenomena of color but it does not explain
the experience. Science functions on universals.  its explanitory
power is thus limited to those experiences that are universally verifyable.

-Ron




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From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 8:30:42 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] The Science of Red

At 07:47 AM 2/4/2009, you wrote:
> Hi Marsha,
> 
> 
>> It seems to me, religions reify experience into religious objects.
>> Science reifies experience into scientific objects.  The MOQ seems to point to the merit of the actual experience, and the experience prior to concepts.
> 
> I'm not sure I understand what the point of this thread is. Are there questions you have about the experience of red? You seem to be unimpressed by the answers Krimel presented that science has about red, but you haven't asked any questions beyond, what does science say about red?
> 
> Best,
> Steve

Greetings Steve,

My question was about what science tells us about the _experience_ of red.  This was just an auxiliary question.  The primary question was also about _experience_:  'It is my impression that the mystical experience is without self and objects, in the land before language.  How does science deal with that?'

Not to worry.  I'm perfectly willing to let the subject drop.  I can ponder it on my own time.


Marsha






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