[MD] Theism/epistemology

[MarshaV]

Okay Ron.


At 11:54 AM 2/6/2009, you wrote:
>"supreme being" to mean the ecstacy of existing in the now. yes.
>the expereince of being is Quality, for me. For it is dynamic
>and mysterious.
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>From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 10:58:15 AM
>Subject: Re: [MD] Theism/epistemology
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>HI Ron,
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>It is my understanding that Quality is experience.  Do you understand
>Quality, or Value, to be the same as a supreme being?  Is that what
>you are saying?
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>Were Heraclitus, Parmenides, Plato or Aristotle's philosophy theistic?
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>Marsha
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>At 10:44 AM 2/6/2009, you wrote:
> >The same questions may be asked of Quality.
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> >I think this is where the conversation is pointed towards.
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> >what ever we call this idea. god, Quality, larry, we still mean
> >the predisposition towards certain types of experiences.
> >Those patterns we call betterness.
> >Humans, as all living patterns tend toward those patterns which
> >promote existence. Biologically we feel a type of pleasure associated
> >with them. Life is a turn on. The mystical expereince is the ecstacy
> >of being. I think, if one slows things down and focus on the expereince
> >of now we feel it. Existence is mysterious and wonder-full.
> >That butterfly in your chest feeling of electricity. I get that expereince
> >when I travel out western U.S. through the wilderness and canyons.
> >The air is crisp and electric,spaces wide and open. I get this feeling
> >watching my children and being proud and finding them beautiful
> >transcient like a flower or a cloud formation in the setting sun.
> >I can only watch as the beauty pours passingly. My expereince, the
> >only stability in a world of flux. Fichte's self posited "I"
> >the 'I' in "I" think, therefore "I" am.(or is to be more specific)
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> >We just are, why can't people just bathe in it, and accept it?
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> >I am that I am.
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> >Now Heraclitus thought it wise to agree about this expereince
> >as common and not particular. But then Parmenides taught that
> >this expereince is illusionary and that reality was absolute, perfect
> >and one. Wich Plato, then Aristotle built apon. Souls and objects
> >possesing eternal and absolute essence, pluralality of the one.
> >Aristotle thought it wise to agee apon this and designed arguement
> >from the particular to the universal understanding.. But this turned out
> >to be a particular view of a common expereince, un wittingly going
> >against the original wisdom of Heraclitus.
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> >"Mans role in the universe " is a condtioned need toward fear and 
> uncertainty.
> >Lifes meaning is existential, we exist to exist. the art of existence is
> >the dance of life.
> >learning the moves is important if one is to dance along, those feelings
> >of harmony ecstacy are letting us know we have it right, flow and ease
> >are hapiness and betterness expressing the creative pattern of existence.
> >Decay is the return of the natural state of existence, nothingness.
> >There is no why, there is no how merely" is" when it comes to this matter.
> >Any answer is allways limited, being limited it will not be accepted as
> >any answer.
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> >Consequently the most trying of times are a natural expression.
> >" thought I may meet adversity, must I lament?who is to keep me
> >from meeting it cheerfully? none." -Epictetus
> >-Ron
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> >________________________________
> >From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> >To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 9:14:12 AM
> >Subject: Re: [MD] Theism/epistemology
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> >Greetings,
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> >Is G*d's function in any way to convey information?
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> >Marsha
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