[MD] Theism/epistemology

[MarshaV]

At 10:19 AM 2/7/2009, you wrote:
> > At 09:28 AM 2/7/2009, you wrote:
> > > > At 08:46 AM 2/7/2009, you wrote:
> > > > >Hi Marsha,
> > > > >
> > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A reminder:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The MOQ is an atheistic religious outlook that solves rather
> > than
> > > > > > bypasses religious problems."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The selling out of intellectual truth to the social icons of
> > > > > > organized religion is seen by the MOQ as an evil act."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The MOQ would add a fourth stage where the term "God" is
> > completely
> > > > > > dropped as a relic of an evil social suppression of intellectual
> > and
> > > > > > Dynamic freedom.   The MOQ is not just atheistic in this regard.
> > It
> > > > > > is anti-theistic. "
> > > > > >
> > > > > >      (RMP, Copleston)
> > > > >
> > > > >On the other hand:
> > > > >
> > > > >"Finally, though it may be argued that a metaphysics that
> > incorporates
> > > > a
> > > > >central term that isn't defined (i.e. Dynamic Quality) isn't a real
> > > > >metaphysics, it can also be argued that the strength of the MOQ is
> > its
> > > > >ability to incorporate the indeterminate divine within a coherent
> > and
> > > > >logical paradigm."
> > > > >
> > > > >Letter to Bodvar Skutvik
> > > > > >From Robert M Pirsig, September 15, 2000
> > > >
> > > > Hi Platt,
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand what you are getting at.  Does that make selling
> > > > out an intellectual truth to the social icons of organized religion
> > > > greater than an evil act?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Marsha
> > >
> > >Hi Marsha,
> > >
> > >Don't know what is "greater than an evil act." What I'm getting at is
> > that
> > >unlike SOM, the MOQ includes the divine, defined in Merriam-Webster as:
> > >"1 a: of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God or a god."
> > >
> > >Unless, of course, Pirsig meant something else in his letter to Bo.
> >
> > Platt,
> >
> > Since RMP in various statements has suggested that the MOQ is not
> > just atheistic, but anti-theistic, I think he might mean something
> > else.  In my definitions of 'divine', #8 "of superhuman or surpassing
> > excellence: Beauty is divine."  Maybe that is what he meant.
> >
> >
> > Marsha
>
>Marsha,
>
>Possibly. But what does "superhuman" mean if not Godlike?


Platt,

I was seeing 'or surpassing excellence:  Beauty is divine.'   I'll 
leave superhuman to the comic books:  WonderWoman.


Marsha






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